Are these publications useful resources?

Howdy all,

I just came across these two publications:

FILMLOG - Published in the first full week of every month. In simple alphabetic form it lists the feature films in actual production, plus the 'almost certain' production for the forthcoming few months. It acts as a swift information index to who is planning what ... where they are, what studios will be used, locations, key people, and in conjunction with Who's Where, addresses and telephone numbers. Not sold singly. £11.50 for three months, £23.00 for six months. £40.00 for twelve months (saving £6).

THEATRE REPORT - covers the whole regional repertory theatre scene and other selected venues. Also incorporates 'Fringe Focus'. Detailed coverage on specific companies, regular and special casting. Checked directly with the artistic directors monthly. Theatre Report published the first full week of every month. Minimum subscription period is three months. Useful for those who want information on non West End theatre productions . £11.50 for three months, £23.00 for six months, £40.00 for twelve months (saving £6).

Does anyone know anything about them, if they are useful?


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I believe they're published by the same people who do PCR, possible the same details cover in that are seperately in these publications.


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Yeah they're both offered as add-ons with PCR. I've subscribed to filmlog before. It details the stages of production films are at and who is involved, but aside from being interesting I found it completely useless?!
As with PCR, any decent paid roles are always commented with "please withhold contact". My understanding is that PCR castings are published after they've already done the rounds of spotlight etc. The "low budget" and fringe work will more than likely also be posted on Shooting People, here, Talent Circle....


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Mark Joseph
Actor

As always feel free to subscribe to them for a few months and see what you think, but I agree that it's perhaps not the best use of funds.

M.


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Lee Ravitz
Actor

I'm sure you know how the land lies with PCR, Monty, as you're knowledgable about so much else. I assume that either a) you missed the fact that these are PCR 'sister' publications or b) you were genuinely hoping to get insight from some subscribers who had found them useful in the course of their career.

My feeling is that, on the one hand, it *can* be useful in this industry to know as much information as possible, and keeping tabs on who is assigned to which projects, affiliated with which production companies etc. *can* be useful in a generic sort of way, when it comes to 'knowing the workings' of your own industry - I know that I myself frequently feel that I am not as interested or well-placed to dissect and follow the trends of the industry as are friends who work in co-ops, do secreterial work for agencies etc. So, investing in knowledge can be a good thing.

At the same time, though, there is virtually no chance, IMHO, that you would generate any actual and immediate work from subscribing to such publications. It isn't even the case that PCR only gets breakdowns after casting directors have already tried alternate routes of casting: most of its 'prestigious' listed projects have no knowledge (or interest) that PCR is namechecking them. What it is doing, whenever the famous motto 'Hold Contact Until Furthe Confirmation' is mentioned is printing something that was trawled for by 'insiders' and is being published (probably) without the production company's tacit acknowledgment, etc. These 'ads' are not adverts or requests for casting suggestions (unless otherwise stated); PCR uses them to make itself look more industry savvy, more prestigious and infulential than it actually is, and thereby defends the 'subscription' you pay for having it delivered. I don't think Mike Leigh, for example, cast his last film on the basis of applications he got from people who may have read about its early stages of development in PCR, and sent in hopeful CV's 'on spec'. Of course, there may be the odd story (amongst thousands) to refute this, but essentially, when PCR asks you to 'hold contact', it's covering its own back, and tacitly admitting it has no right to suggest that you can apply to the people in any shape, form or capacity. It knows many actors *will* do so, in the hope of landing a much - needed 'break', of course, and so simply ensures that if it gets any irate feedback from a casting director now inundated with thousands of unwanted CV's, it can always claim innocency, and point to the fact that it didn't actively encourage anyone to believe they were still casting/interested in unsolicited submissions.

I can't imagine that these publications are anything more than directories containing the same sort of information. All great if you are building a database, but highly unlikely to up your chances of securing work.


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Lee Ravitz
Actor

P.S. I have experienced at least one incident relating to a significant documentary project, where the application my agent had sent on my behalf (after seeing the ad in PCR) was returned with a fuming note stating, in no uncertain terms, that the casting director had already cast the project, had no interest in seeing anyone not represented by those outside of the circles to which she sent breakdowns via Spotlight link, and was hugely fed up by the fact that her inbox now contained an overflowing backlog of irrelevant submissions. The tenor of the argument was 'Shame on the agencies concerned for not realising that the CD in question would never stoop to advertising in a journal like PCR.' Elitist, perhaps, or maybe understandable, given the way in which operating through PCR can 'open the floodgates' for any casting director - but the most interesting point was surely: how then had this 'rough' breakdown ever appeared on PCR in the first place? Was it a genuine mistake (it didn't admitedly occur in the print version, but online), or a fine example of PCR utilising information that it had no right to circulate? I never got a definite answer one way or the other!


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Lee Ravitz
Actor

And I meant 'rogue' breakdown!


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Forbes KB
Actor

A simple yes or no would have sufficed Lee! haha!


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