Mandy: Jobs under 200 quid should automatically be opportunities?

Anthony James Donnelly

Just a thought, as I don't post often, nor comment, however I have noticed that quite recently Mandy has been allowing far too many jobs to be posted that pay 70 quid or under for the day. That is nowhere near what a professional actor should accept for their talent, and (IMO) anybody that accepts that kind of work ISN'T a professional (or doesn't respect the craft!) They should automatically go into the "opportunities" bin for students, wannabees, etc.

Up for discussion...


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Mark Lisseman

That’s NMW - the level Mandy have set as a minimum for paid work. I don’t know if there’s any legality behind it (i.e. they HAD to set it at that), But at least _there is_ a minimum!


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Terri-Ann Brumby

I agree all jobs that are not set at Equity rates should be in a different category. If students or those trying to build a cv want to apply that is their choice. This site in theory is a great thing but there is a lot of un-professionalism ( I know this sounds snotty - not meant to) #professionnotahobby


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Toni Brooks
Toni Brooks
Actor

My view is that all jobs under £100 a day should be in the 'opportunites' section.


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Toni Brooks
Toni Brooks
Actor

Apart from theatre of course, that should be if they're under Equity minimum.


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Anthony James Donnelly

Thanks for all your comments and input. I agree with you Toni. As to national minimum wage, I'd hardly classify our profession as 'unskilled' labour, so by default should command much more than NMW, surely?

Anyway, I'm glad it's opening up an interesting discussion.

PS - Happy New Year, and I wish you all much success for 2020!


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David Laurence

Its steadily getting worse . I got a message from another site , for a pop video paying £40.00. The project was allegedly for a named artist . I blew a polite raspberry ...........
Im sick to the back teeth of things being advertised as work , which are clearly not work , because work pays bills . And a lot of the so called jobs are for experience . My mobile provider will not take payment in experience . My brother has a motto . No money no Matt .
Interestingly enough i applied for a role , which was on here for £70.00 , purely because it wasn't an all day commitment , & i was free anyway . But i did stipulate that i was after a fee of £150.00 , because a fair drive was required to reach a location . And lets face it , there is no such thing as a half day , because what ever project you are involved in , requires at the very least an hour or two of travel on any given day .
I wasn't arsey, i simple asked the question about money . I was offered £170 all in . They got what they wanted , I got a reasonable rate for a job . We all came away happy . Nobody felt cheated or used . This is show but people need to be reminded its also a business . And as such actors require proper payment , not an IOU


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Anthony James Donnelly

Well put, David. Thank you for joining the discussion.


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Toni Brooks
Toni Brooks
Actor

There's a good booklet Equity produced called Professionally Made, Professionally Paid. It lists things you can do. I can't attach it here but it should be available from Equity.


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David Laurence

Its a discussion which has long needed to be pushed forward . I think the absolute min fee should be £100+ . . Even if im involved in a low budget student film in London , my travel in £9-12 .Basic food costs for being in the city are upwards of £8+ . Then you need to consider tax on top . You are often required to provide your own costume .
But of course its not solely a student film issue , it extends to all areas of the industry . I dont think its unreasonable to expect a basic of £100+ a bit of lunch or help with travel .
If someone cant , or won't pay this , then id question their view of your worth . Or the quality of the project is so poor , that the footage you hoped to gain from it , won't be worth showing to your friends on a phone , let alone a casting agent .


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Ian James Seale

This forum needs a 'Like' button for the comments.
Frankly, I'm surprsied that the Mandy moderator has let this topic slip through.
I'd go with the £200/day minimum, in absence of Equity Rates.

Sub-rates are not professional, and an alarm bell to whatever other penny-pinching may be going o within a production.

If you don't value yourself - why would you expect anybody else to value you?


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Anthony James Donnelly

The 'like' button, and some kind of suggestion box to Mandy would be excellent. So glad this discussion is gaining more traction, let's hope it leads to some constructive action as well.

Thank you for all the input so far.


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Kimberley Palmer

Hi all

Also recently noticed how low payment is on here now for work. Even £200 per day is low. When you think about it if you accept that to be say in a furniture commercial - you then can't cast for any conflicting products for at least 3 years? So in theory you have sold your self for 200 quid?
I agree that anything less than £200 should be in opportunity section unless a charity tvc then I have no issues!


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