Unclear instructions by potential employers

  • Tony Coughlan

    Actor

    I am finding more and more on this site unclear auditioning instructions on this site, lazy job adverts with very poor grammar and spelling mistakes.

    I just had a disagreement with a potential employer about self taping. The client posted the script to the job advert.

    However not once did they mention that they wanted to self tape. I applied and got a quite nasty message back ‘saying send your self tape instructions were clear’ it wasn’t clear!! It was reading as if they wanted us to look at script to get a taster for the film and what our next instructions where once we had applied.

    If you want us to self tape fine, but please make it clear that you want us to saying please send us a self tape on the attached scene and with the record audition button or upload file. And please take your job postings seriously as well as improving grammar. We take you seriously do the same for us in return.

    I sent my Showreel. Please don’t talk down to us actors we aren’t Derran Brown, we can’t read minds.

    Our profession is hard enough let’s make it easier for both actor and employer.

    • 1st Dec 2020
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  • Toni Brooks

    Actor

    That's awful Tony. Whenever there is a self tape request, you can't apply for the job unless you attach a self tape through the site. This comes up every time. If you try to apply without one, a message comes up that the client has requested a self tape and you are nudged to the appropriate part of the posting. They must have forgotten to put that there so it's totally their fault. Mind you, if that is their attitude, would you want to work with them? Can you imagine what they'd be like on set?!

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Tony Coughlan

    Actor

    They never asked for a self tape in the job advert. & the job advert was set up as a normal casting with your existing work. Not like please attached a self tape/record etc. As soon as they sent the nasty message I was out. But also i'm seeing it more & more lazy job adverts with poor information, grammar etc. It's getting worse. :(

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Dylan Baldwin

    Actor

    I know the one you're talking about Tony, had exactly the same response.. when I said there was no mention of a selftape, they then went in and changed the ad... then denied changing it.

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Toni Brooks

    Actor

    One can only hope they get the reputation they deserve: rude, arrogant and untruthful.

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Tony Coughlan

    Actor

    Dylan knows the one :) Yeah they sent me a message saying this is the first time posting on Mandy & that 9 out 10 actors don't read castings. I snapped back saying we do read castings. But hard to read things that aren't there in the first place. Can't see this company winning many friends with that posting & messages they have been sending me & my fellow actors.

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Andrew Gruffudd

    Actor

    Been there, done that, got the bullet holes. And quite frankly, if that's their attitude - which is extremely unprofessional - in the first communication, I wouldn't like to be on that set for thirteen hours a day! Someone would surely come a-cropper, and I wouldn't like to be in the melee when it happens; it would remind me too much of the supposed ancient curse about living in interesting times.

    • 25th Nov 2020
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  • Malcolm James

    Actor

    I had exactly the same experience, Tony and Dylan. An angry e-mail full of CAPITAL LETTERS and triple exclamation marks followed by the general one they sent accusing actors of never reading the ad properly. I decided to ignore, but well done for fighting back. In an ideal world of course the company would apologise...

    • 26th Nov 2020
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  • Lewis Allcock

    Actor

    Sounds like an employer to avoid completely. Possibly even report.

    • 26th Nov 2020
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  • Tony Coughlan

    Actor

    That's a fair point Lewis, however I'm gonna hold fire. I've made a note of the companies name. I'm gonna keep an eye on the jobs board if they come up again & I or any other actor applies for a job & they get the same response then I will be. I will give them the benefit of the doubt as they said 'It's our first time on Mandy' hopefully they've learnt something from this & will improve the next time round.

    • 26th Nov 2020
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  • Warren Rusher

    Actor

    Please don't hold fire.

    Report them.

    For two reasons

    1) This company needs to catch themselves on

    2) Mandy needs to sharpen up too

    • 27th Nov 2020
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  • Toni Brooks

    Actor

    Yeah, 'first time on Mandy' doesn't really excuse their behaviour and attitude. A simple, hey, we're sorry, we didn't realise we had to put the post in that particular format or words to that effect. It's always a sign of callowness when people can't admit their mistakes. Keep an eye on them and see what happens and if the behaviour is repeated, then do let us know.

    Cheers

    T

    • 27th Nov 2020
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  • Laarni Cornista-Hollebon

    Actor

    Unfortunately this seems to be becoming commonplace. I had a vague reply to an application which didn't make it clear whether or not I was expected to the casting call as it only stipulated to please attend "if you've been contacted". Well yes, I had been contacted following my application but did they mean that or contacted again by them since then? Messaged them politely asking clarification and got no response. Decided to go to the casting as it's better to turn up and be sent away then not turn up when you could be expected. No full address given even in the invitation message that I replied I was available to. I ended up walking around for 20 mins with another actor who was looking for the same casting call and similarly had received no responses to her messages. We finally found the place by sheer luck - no signage, no-one to greet at the door, just met a couple of other actors looking to attend the same call by chance. Far too much trouble and time wasted in my opinion.

    • 30th Nov 2020
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  • Sue Parker-Nutley

    Actor

    I see they have re-posted the job this morning, with better instructions regarding the self tape.

    However, they still seem to have rather an "attitude".

    I won't be bothering - if they're like that in writing, what are they going to be like in person?

    No way, Jose.

    Sue Parker-Nutley

    • 1st Dec 2020
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  • Toni Brooks

    Actor

    I think I know which one Sue - I was put off by the attitude to something today - I especially don't like to be shouted at in capital letters! The can whistle and as for the fee? Risible!

    If it's not the same people, then there are a spate of similar 'wannabes' who think being strong equates with being rude.

    • 1st Dec 2020
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  • Sue Parker-Nutley

    Actor

    Hi, Toni. Yes, it's definitely the same one.

    I agree that the fee is silly money - they expect us to film it ourselves - 8 minutes - that's a whole day's work for a pittance!

    All the best.

    Sue x

    • 1st Dec 2020
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  • Tony Coughlan

    Actor

    It’s honestly shocking in this day and age! Any other industry would look to make instructions clear on job applications.

    It’s like certain employers on here have the attitude well they should be grateful we’re putting work out there for them. So we’ll word it how we want too and talk to them how we want too!

    It’s almost like loved ones or people we meet asking ‘oh how’s the acting hobby going?’ Please please take us and our craft seriously!

    • 1st Dec 2020
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