Very new and in need of some help please!

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    Hi All!

    I could really do with some help or some insight into how to even begin working in this industry. I'm very new to this profession, and have very recently graduated from a 2 year intensive conservatory programme in New York. I'm now back in London trying to work, getting an agent is very difficult as they all have said they would like to see me in something which is of course understandable, so I'm now on that step to try and get work. I've applied for a lot of work, paid and unpaid on casting call pro, I seemed to have gotten a lot of profile views but absolutely zero response. I guess the question I'm asking is, does my profile need sprucing up, or are my headshots not up to par or is my cv not upto scratch. Majority of work on my cv is stuff I did during training. And finally are the above all actually fine and is this just the ruthless nature of this industry? I would really appreciate any insight, being very new this is quite a daunting prospect.

    Thanking you all in advance!

    • 19th Aug 2013
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  • Dave Frost

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    Hi Uzair

    I think your headshots are good but nowadays a showreel is just as important as a headshot, it allows casting directors to audition actors before they even have a first audition.

    Lots of good companies shoot showreels from scratch. Look at the resources section on here.

    Once you've got that you'll find things much easier.

    I'd also add your skills to your profile - like horseriding, skiing etc.

    Best

    Charlie

    • 26th Jun 2013
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  • Tony Hamilton

    Actor

    Uzair,

    Im sure you'll do well, you have quite a lot of credits in your profile, im not sure why your not getting offers of work let alone auditions!

    Have you tries any other sites? one springs to mind as a good starting place, theres lots of unpaid work and will help to build up references & showreels..

    Im not going to post the name on here as it may be seen as inappropriate, so let me know if you want the web address.

    • 26th Jun 2013
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    Hi guys, thanks for the comments so far, really appreciate them. Charlie I will look into a showreel. Tony I have sent you a private message with regards to the other website.

    Many thanks!

    • 26th Jun 2013
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  • Cathy Conneff

    Actor

    Hi Uzair,

    Great headshot, by the way!

    Just a quick question: Are you on Spotlight as most reputable agents won't consider you otherwise.

    • 26th Jun 2013
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    Hi Cathy,

    Thank you! I'm not on spotlight yet, I need to build up some more working credits before I can join.

    • 26th Jun 2013
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  • Cathy Conneff

    Actor

    Are you a member of:

    Talent Circle, Mandy, Casting Networks,Shooting People?

    All great (and cheap!) places to find jobs to get together a showreel and credits.

    StarNow has the worst name ever, but you do get the occassional goof job on there.

    • 27th Jun 2013
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  • Cathy Conneff

    Actor

    **good job!**

    • 27th Jun 2013
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    This helped me too. I started off like you Charlie but being on Spotlight helps loads. Im in desperate need of a showreel. But I dont have enough footage yet to build one. Does anyone know of any reputable agencies which arent charging an arm and a leg.

    Kind regards

    Lernice

    • 27th Jun 2013
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  • Cathy Conneff

    Actor

    Hi Lernice,

    A good personal management agency should not charge you anything.

    If you join a co-op agency, there will probably be costs involved, but shouldn't be a huge amount and covers the costs of getting someone in to train you on being an agent.

    If an agent wants to charge you money to join, run a mile. Same if they want you to have photos taken by them only.

    As far as comission goes, the going rate is about 20%.

    • 27th Jun 2013
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    Hi Uzair, good luck on your quest its not easy...you just gotta keep beliving in yourself and keep going! Agree with the othe others go for student films get some good ones on your showreel..i still have man met on mine..it got me work initally.man met are good..london film schoool. notthern film school.

    • 28th Jun 2013
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  • Dave Frost

    Actor

    Student films seem like a cheap way to build a showreel, but taking in to account the fact that you probably won't get paid (when you could be earning - so working for free will cost you a fair bit), and that lots of the material will look poor or be poor, as well as it taking some time to receive the footage means it's often better to pay for a showreel package as you would a headshot.

    You'll get it quickly, can tailor it to your strengths, and you're much more likely to get a good result. They're often a couple of hundred pounds but taking days off work to do unpaid student films will probably cost you more.

    • 28th Jun 2013
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    yeah guess your right on that front Charlie however some student films really are good you just gotta shop about i guess. i couldnt really afford to get a showreel made however if you can that could always be an option..if you are going to do a student film final year students are best also some universitys use bbc equipment etc..you just gotta choose carefully. A student film called Ryley Lees Mum i did secured me a good agent and has got me work..its pot luck i guess x

    • 29th Jun 2013
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  • Lewis Allcock

    Actor

    Yes, Amy is correct. A lot of student films are pretty dodgy, especially first / second year projects, with those little 3-4 minute films. I've done one or two in the past, but they weren't really worth the bother.

    However, some reputable institutions, such as the London Film School, can actually procure some really professional films, and in some cases, will actually pay the actors!

    It's just a case of choosing carefully.

    • 29th Jun 2013
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    Hi Uzair,

    Are you able to improvise in Punjabi? If so, RIFCO Arts are looking for actors to be in their next show. You can find their contact details on their website.

    Good luck!

    • 3rd Jul 2013
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    Hi Uzair

    The problem you might be having is all your credits are under AADA which is linking to the Australian Academy of dramatic Arts but you say you went to the American, which may confuse and put people off as its unknown in the U.K. Your first point of call before getting an agent is to get a showreel together and get on spotlight. There are plenty of short films casting on here. You probably won't get paid at first but you will learn a lot and slowly build up material and experience. Also do you have a website? It does help having an online presence where people can learn a bit more about you. Feel free to check out mine for any ideas www.davidrbutler.co.uk. I also do one on one sessions for career development for actors of all sorts of experience. I do charge for this however, got to pay those bills. If you're interested its all laid out on my website.

    Regards

    David R. Butler

    www.davidrbutler.co.uk

    • 4th Jul 2013
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  • Forbes KB

    Actor

    No reputable acting agencies should be charging you at all Lernice! Only the agencies that deal with extras charge a registration fee. Walk away from any agency that asks for any money from you before they've even got you any work and then only pay the agreed commission!

    • 4th Jul 2013
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    Hi All thank you so much for your replies, they really have been very helpful, and I sincerely appreciate it. Thank you.

    • 4th Jul 2013
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    Hi Uzair,

    If you have put in the time training to became an actor Spotlight should accept you without you needing any professional credits yet. Just apply, the worst they can say is no and as you have been trained this is unlikely. Just try and big yourself up and tell them of your dedication.

    Hope this helps!

    Carys :)

    • 24th Jul 2013
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    Hi Uzair,

    I highly recommend Simon Dunmore's: An actor's guide to getting work.

    I'm also new to the professional industry, but his book have answered a lot of my newbie questions.

    Good luck :)

    • 18th Aug 2013
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