Derren Brown...predicting the Lottery

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Ok...so what are all your theroies on this then?

Hows it done then?

My own therory is SPLIT SCREEN frozen video over the top of someone simply putting the correct balls up as they were called out....then the Freeze is replaced with Live video again on that half of the screen!! That would work but is it that simple an answer?

He never wrote the numbers down till they were all drawn either...not sure if that helps.

C'mon clever clogs actors....who knows?!!


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Toni Brooks
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Didn't watch him as I don't really like him but it's bound to be something like you said. What would be best would be if he went on TV the day before to predict the numbers and the date and time was put on screen.


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Nigel Peever
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But if we break the code of the magic circle they'll come round and saw us in half!
Otherwise the camera is locked off to allow split screen and a switch while Derren busks for time and writes the numbers down and the "camera shake" is put on electronically in the gallery.


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Forbes KB
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There was actually about a 30 sec time lag between the live BBC feed and the Derren Brown Channel 4 feed! I watched the BBC two feed and after screwing up my ticket...switched over to Channel 4 and had a bit of dejavu!! 30 secs is more than enough time to place the correct balls in the rack, which incidentally wasn't on screen while he was standing by the instudio TV writing down the numbers on the card!!

Was done the same way on an episode of Jonathan Creek, that Alan Davies plays Amateur Detective / Magicians Technician series!


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Nathan Head
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i didnt watch it but everyone is talking about it and one of my two theories Forbes has just confirmed... the broadcast wasn't exactly live. it was a minute or so behind.
my other theory is my on-going conspiracy view that the lottery isn't ever random and in fact is picked by a computer that chooses the numbers with the least payout (hence more profit for Camelot)


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Liz Thompson
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My 12 year old son watched and immediately gave me his theory..... he reckons...It was actually a split screen so the half of the screen which had the white balls on was a still image which gave an assistant time to put the correct winning balls on and then the screen was unfrozen just before he walked over to the balls. Good Theory i think just wish i would of thought of it !!!!


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Liz Thompson
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Just realised that what you said in the first place mark -Doh !!! Just ignore me im having a brain freeze moment.


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Split screen sounds the most likely, but it's too. . . technical for Mr Brown's liking I think. I think it'll be something more flashy. Of course I could be hideously wrong!


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Toni Brooks
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He's supposed to be revealing how he did it tomorrow according to the London Paper.


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Not split-screen for DB - it isn't his style. And the throwaway (?) remark about a year of his life not having been wasted suggests that there is some method to this.


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Toni Brooks
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Or more likey his deal with the BBC took that long to set up. Cynic? Moi?


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I don't think the broadcast was time delayed Forbes...that I could see....was it, and I am not sure Camalot would allow that anyway?? Plus Derren kept saying how it was happening at teh same time....and if it was time delay he's gonna look a twat for lying...as anyone could do that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8

INTERESTING video Dont you think....thanks to Marc Parry for that PM....I had not seen this prior to my post honest! Can't wait to find out tonight...though I hope its not going to be left open ended with Derren suggesting he worked it out in some way......COBBLERS!!!!


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i think he really did it...


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Didn't see the program, but having seen (and enjoyed) some of his previous stunts - and taking his comment about 'not wasting a year' into account - I reckon he has pre-recorded every possible combination of numbers.

Seriously.

Okay, so that's a lot of combinations - 49! - 43! (49 factorial minus 43 factorial), if my maths is correct. But that's what I'd bet on.


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Or rather 50! - 44!

Silly me!


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...at a rough calc: that equals 13,983,816

Nearly 14 Million combinations of the numbers......you could have a point but on the assumption it was drawn LIVE and there was no delay in the broadcast....someone and a computer has to come up with that actual combination...and put the balls out in just a few seconds!!

Interesting answer though!!

BTW: Before any of you cancel your CCP memberships and save up: £13,983,816 to buy 13,983,816 tickets....what if the jackpot is less than 13,983,816 ....even if there was a rollover and the Jackpot was £50 million ....there could be 5 other winners!!! Bugger...just can't beat the system!

I recon I am £1,000 up coz I don't do the lottery!!


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Seeing how the lottery is run by Americans ... are we to believe that they have let a man live who can win every week ??? ... 'saload of bollocks.


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It's "balls" Alan 6 of the little sods!!


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Hahaha!

There was an American syndicate that waited until the jackpot was big enough to make it worth buying every possible combination - though they'd have come unstuck if there were several winners.

As it was, there was a systems failure (strange coincidence!) that meant machines in a certain area went down, and they didn't get all combinations covered . . .

They still won, though.


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Toni .. Cynic? Toi?

Maybe he is just physic or is that psyich. Must lern to speel won dai.

Naïve? Moi?

Brgds all.

N.


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Well just watched all that nonsence and Im still not convinced...at all.

The group of people predicted the numbers...and then he stuffed the balls into a tube and ran to the other studio for the recording? Why did the group who did the prediction not know or see the numbers? At the studio with it already predicted....suposedly...why were the balls hidden from our view? Why was the camera work shakey and dubious during the recording?

There are some very clever numbers and maths games which mind readers use.....to great effect....this wasnt one of those Derren...I still belive he did a clever trick...and did it in a tech way with video!


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