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    Jodie to win!

    • 3rd Jun 2008
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    Why have we all been so quiet on this show? Are we envious of the obvious talent of the contenders. I was extatic at the result but thought Jessie was amazing on the night. I was crying most of the way through.My weekends won't be the same now, I feel cut adrift!I wonder if Cameron will make Jessie understudy as she was obviously his choice.

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    You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Andrew stages a production of 'A Star iS Born' just for Jessie. Watch this space...!

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  • Alan Brent

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    Don't panic, Amanda. Another one of these shows will be following along shortly!

    Sure as eggs is eggs...

    I'm just gutted for 'Escala'!

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    WAS THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE SO TALENTED OR THEIR SUPER MODEL LOOKS AND LEGS?!!!

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  • Alan Brent

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    When you put a package together for Christmas what goes on the outside is often a good indicator of what is on the inside!

    They were extremely talented and technically brilliant musicians with a terrific performance.

    The fact that they were all GORGEOUS was a tremendous bonus!

    But do we knock them for looking good or applaud the presentation and hard work they'd done to put together an exciting show?

    I think they were by far the outstanding stars of the whole series with an innovative act and exceptional talent. (And great legs!)

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    Seriously I agree with you 100% but that's the public for you. Had I have voted they would have got my vote, but I spent my voting allowance on Jodie!!

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    I agree that ESCALA had a lot of talent and should have been in the vote off, at least BUT...we now have a large and ever growing ethnically diverse culture and this was reflected in the phone votes and this will not get any less now.

    I didn't like ANY of the "I'll Do Anything" contestants' performances, GENERALLY SPEAKING, but Jessie probably showed MOST talent and had the occasional inspired performance but I think she may need a period to gain strength for the rigors of commercial theatre!

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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  • Alan Brent

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    I'm afraid I wouldn't dream of voting on any of these shows.

    But I agree with Nigel and Amanda that the talent to win one of these shows is one thing. The talent and training and strength to pull off a West End run is quite another! But then again it's all only a PR excercise after all.

    When the performers on West End shows get a 'living wage' and don't have to take second jobs to pay their bills I will be satisfied.

    Who can live in London on £375 per week?

    The new wage rise takes them to only £420. Take off the tax and NI contributions and I bet the production spends more on floor polish than actors/musical performers!

    No wonder they are sticking out for £550 per week. But that is still only £27500 for the year..if they last a year!! AND these are the top performing artists in our theatre showcase, the West End.

    I bet overseas producers are soooo envious of that. No wonder all of the industry is being cheapened by others if tight wad WE producers pay so little.

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    Couple of observations here:

    The thread was started by "anonymous" - always interesting when someone posting on a messageboard wants to remain anonymous!

    No idea what you're talking about when you talk about Escala - I presume this was the ITV talent show that I've never had any interest in and nothing to do with this thread!

    Jodie has little top belt - they took down in pitch most of the songs she sang in the show. She couldn't belt the top notes of "As Long As He Needs Me" on Saturday after 10/12 weeks of continuous singing, so my guess is, she'll be having singing coaching, courtesy of CML, everyday day between now and the start of the show. The reprise towards the end of Act 2 is higher in pitch than she had to sing on Saturday...

    At the moment, Jodie is contracted to do Monday eve, Tues eve and Weds matinee, Fri eve and Sat eve, so if you have booked tickets for Weds eve or Thurs eve, and voted for Jodie, you possibly won't see her. (This is apparently subject to change depending upon rehearsals...!)

    Rachel was offered the role of "Alternate" Nancy the same evening she was voted off, but apparently had declined the offer.

    Why oh why didn't they have to sing musical theatre songs in the show? They were auditioning for a musical theatre show not a pop show, and when you go to a musical theatre audition you have to take a musical theatre song, so why was that thrown out of the window for this?

    Amy - the one who was voted out 1st - has already been cast as the lead in a West End comedy opening, I think, in July.

    Just my observations and some of the word on the street!

    S x

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  • Alan Brent

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    Sarah, please accept my apology for 'hijacking' your thread. It was just that I couldn't sit through another X Factor type show that was going to follow the same old format once again.

    You're so right to say that none of the finalists in the show you are talking about will have the right qualifications or training for the roles they will be thrust in to or paid even a decent wage once they get there. Those are the sorts of things that are never explained to the candidates when they go through the ordeal they must suffer to get the part!

    Please accept my sincerest apology.

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    Hee hee

    I have to say - most of the Nancy's left me cold. I wasn't really bothered about any of them - until Rachel did her 'As long as he needs me' when she went out - it gave me goose bumps! I'd rather have paid to see her in the secondary Nancy role than Jodie, Jesse or Samantha in the lead role. I wonder if she's holding out for Cabaret tho - that was a mighty fine audition she did for it!! ;-)

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Sam in Wicked either at some point...

    Suzanne

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    Errr, Alan, I think you've used my name for someone else's post/thread!

    This isn't my thread and I haven't said the things you are quoting me as saying.

    Your apology is for someone else!

    I am in full favour of the Maria, Joseph and Nancy shows, as they open more doors for the people taking part then any other form of audition in this business. The majority of the people auditioned in these circumstances would never have been called in by any of the top musical theatre casting directors, and it enables them to audition people they wouldn't otherwise have seen. This is a fact they widely acknowledge.

    With regard to wages in the West End, they are often appalling, and this is not widely known, however, they are not all appalling and often are very good, depending upon which management is producing the show.

    To the people auditioning for these programmes, the final wage they will get is irrelevant. They do it for the exposure.

    I do wonder about anonymous - lets face it, this person could be from CML or RUG, or be a journalist stirring things up to get a reaction!

    I don't think the majority of us would hide behind "anonymous"... many of us are too outspoken and proud of our views! LOL!

    S x

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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  • Blake J Askew

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    Sarah,

    For what its worth, most of the West End leads are usually given coaching for shows if they are high profile- and I do agree with you about the fact that its odd they hire someone who cant sing the score, but they do transpose scores many times.... some like Chicago are always transposed, while others like Les Mis and Phantom stay fixed.

    Having said that, I loved Jessie but agree that Jodie is so right for oit- she just seems so Nancy and has the bawdy barmaid with a herat of gold- although nancy really is a hooker-- but shhh... dont tell the kids....

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    Hi Blake

    Yes, you are absolutely right, I know that - I have 3 cast recordings of Oliver and each one sings As Long As He Needs Me in a different key! They don't all get transposed though, and

    Chicago is a slightly different kettle of fish, as its cast to put bums on seats with celebrities, and not necessarily cast with the best person for the job, as if that was the case, it probably would have closed ages ago.

    It just seems odd to me that you run a TV casting programme and transpose the songs the person who is clearly the audience fabourite sing, (they will have been monitoring who was favourite in the votes so will have had a good idea that Jodie would win all along) so the voting public are unaware she can't sing the dots!

    Its totally bizarre.

    If they'd have had the auditionees singing musical theatre songs covering the range Nancy sings (in the original and, in my humble opinion, most heartbreaking key) then we'd have seen the men from the boys and I think it would have been a different result. I think Jodie would have gone ages ago, but then would they have lost half the viewers...? LOL!

    S x

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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  • Blake J Askew

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    Once again, I say this:

    Its not about casting a person, its about a TV programme. And the pop songs are there to keep interest as most normal Joe Bloggs only know three shows etc..

    I would not be surprised if the people cast are told days before the final and then "act" shocked, surpised, horrified, thank their pet goldfish etc...

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    Funny you should say that Blake, because, word on the street is, that previously that was the case, however, with all the fines and crackdowns on phone votes, its no longer possible to do that, as the TV companies have to be squeaky clean now! So it really was a surprise to everyone on the night.

    Apparently.

    I can't believe, if they could have rigged it, that they would have rigged it for Jodie to win...

    Just my opinion though, as ever!

    S x

    • 2nd Jun 2008
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    Re: transposing: have uncle who is West End MD of long standing. Transposing to suit the 'talent' is - and always has been - standard practice. How do you think Judy Garland/Liza Minelli managed? re: WE minimum wage: appalling; that's why we have Equity and that's why we have a vote. Use it! re: talent shows: it shows everyone (including the producers) that they miss real talent by not widening the net in the first place. Yes, they're a PR stunt, but they are driving up ticket sales. Good for all of us, non? Re: Jodie - backed her from day one (as I did Connie and Lee before her) Rachel was the true star, Jessie too emotionally immature to cope Samantha GORGEOUS but nothing behind the eyes. Anyway, they're all gonna do well. And we're not gonna give up, are we?

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    With regards to the thing about it being a TV programme, my take on it is, yes its a TV programme - thats the whole point!

    I'd rather audition for this, get down to the final 10, get a great agent on the back of it, because I now have the power to "put bums on seats", and then get proper jobs from now on.

    Faced with that, versus, doing endless unpaid fringe jobs, in the hope of getting a good agent or job, that the casting directors and agents don't come and see me in, and performing in odd bits and pieces in and around London, I'd rather give the TV casting show a go and see what happens, and for the lucky 10, it pays off.

    That isn't me because I can't afford to work for no pay, but this is the reality for many people.

    So therefore, if it gives 10 people the opportunity of a good agent and career that earns them money, then good on it.

    And if in the process it gets people going to the theatre who wouldn't normally go, then good on it.

    I know that is at odds with a lot of people's views, but at the end of the day, we live in a commercial world in a commercial business and the people who survive are the people who are commercially savvy.

    And the lucky 10 get proper tv money for the duration of the whole show (thanks to Equity negotiating it) so even if you get voted off in week 1, you still have 10 weeks proper money...

    I can't see how its a "lose" situation.

    As ever, just my opinion!

    S x

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    This is more like it I new you all wanted to give your views really.

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