Jack Falls?

Has anybody who was up for the casting of this project,heard anything since the last emails.Just wondered,as its all gone very quiet indeed.

Perhaps the castings have in fact taken place,and due to curcumstances the number of people being seen has been cut.

I guess it would be nice to know either way.


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Yea very bored with the jack comments now.Jack off and bother someone elses discussion.


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Lee Ravitz
Actor

Can't say what's going on on this one, to be honest: as far as the series is concerned, I have worked with a number of good guys who were in the previous films in the sequence, and seem to have been treated decently throughout, with the films that resulted also being taken seriously. It *may* be a law of diminishing returns (whereby the first film in the sequence was the one that had most 'names' attached to it, and kudos accorded it) and now, the project is foundering for want of...who knows?...funding, a capable director to helm it? On the other hand, I am well aware that the *intention* has always been to make a trilogy, so it would seem a bit of a let-down if, after all this effort, the final piece didn't get made.

It is, in my opinion, quite possible that the CCP advert was only one of many that the casting directors took out to 'cover themselves' (as they so often do) and not only were they inundated with applicants (just look at how many CCPers have contributed to this forum to say they have applied - and this is only a cross section of 'Green Room' regulars!), but there were also many performers involved with the prior productions who may have been given priority on parts. I have no idea if any of my associates actually got cast this time around, but I know that they were discussing the possibility of pressing the production team over this when I was last filming with them...so there may have been relatively little notice taken of the CCP applications when they were gathered in (or maybe most of them weren't even read at all in the end, as some of the previous posts have hinted). Given that e.g. Glen gained a reply, I would assume that the production team have simply gone through applications they felt looked promising, and then made casting decisions on the basis of this, and let the other applications (including ones that may have piled up late in the day) go unread and unresponded to - in this, they would be no different to hundreds of other casting teams, especially those who are casting on a (relatively) high profile piece. You can never say never, of course, but I suspect this bird has flown...

As to them having a cheek asking Glen to keep up with the film's progress on the website, yes, that is cheeky (and hardly a 'consolation'), but at least they weren't asking you if, after failing to be cast, you fancied pitching in funding to help boster the budget - there ARE companies who do this!


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Zzzz.....


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Law Ballard
Actor

I got a 'Not this time' email and I also got an invite to join their spotlight page and website (Oh, I feel so much better!). ..Think Lee is probably right, judging by the responses.


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Farah Sardar
Actor

Awwww Jack it in now Splatty!


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Well were over a week into December and still no word about this Project,not even a thanks but no thanks email.

So I guess it has either sunk without a trace,or weve all been badly mislead about this alleged casting.

Either way Im not impressed at all with the situation.

How does that saying go ,the truth hurts.

In this particular case the truth would have been more welcome.

Id rather expend my effort working for people who have enough courtesy to treat me with a bit of respect,and not leave me dangling for months at a time,all for the possibility of a casting.

There Ive said it.Ive been afraid to point fingers because I might enrage a casting director linked with this project.

But we all do it to varying degrees dont we.

All afraid to ruin our chances of a future job.But sometimes people just take the complete piss out of us,knowing full well that were prepared to do anything to work.

All full of good will,because we enjoy what we do.Often doing all sorts of crappy jobs,so we can be available more often for projects such as this.

I guess its a power game to some people in this industry,and It does wind me up sometimes.

Perhaps this project is still going to go ahead.But it doesnt change the fact weve all been left totally in the dark.And thats not good enough.

Ok relax ,put the soap box back under the bed....... Im done.I could go on for a while about this,but what would it achieve.

Perhaps my names been struck off the list,if it in fact exists.

Perhaps I was never ever going to get near a script or be seen by a single person connected with this project.

But if anybody from this production does take an interest in this site,then perhaps they could read this post.And maybe appreciate my frustration .

I mean come on guys,its not a lot to ask is it,just an update on whats happening.


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Lee Ravitz
Actor

I am probably the only person on these forums (unless some members actually appeared in it !) who knows all the ins and outs of the 'Sherlock Holmes' confusion that you are referring to, Splat. This is as a combination of my own interest in Holmes, some personal connections, and some investigations into the curiosity of what is going on! Essentially, lots of different productions are getting mixed up here, so it's worth setting the record straight.

1. There are two (I believe) new Hollywood 'blockbuster' versions of the Holmes story that are coming to our screens soon. The first, which I saw being advertised yesterday, stars Robert Downey Junior and Jude Law, and is directed by the 'cockney supremo' himself, Guy Ritchie, who, I assume, was peddling the publicity on 'Top Gear', as you say, Splat. I imagine it has cost him vast amounts of money. There is also (supposedly) a version of the story in the works that would be a more comedic 'big screen' take on the Holmes stories, and would star Sacha Baron Cohen and Will Ferrell, but not much has been heard about it since July of this year, so I'm not sure if it has gone into production. Both, make no mistake, are big budget Hollywood productions.

2. The 'Sherlock Holmes' piece that was advertised on this site is not either of these productions. It was, in fact, a much lower budget feature, being shot in Wales, and made for the straight to DVD market. The reason I know this is because a TV star with whom I was working on another piece mentioned to me at one stage that his next project was to be a 'Sherlock Holmes' adaptation that immediately put me in mind of the CCP advert - once I traced this production, I put two and two together and concluded they were the same. Initially a little confused as to why a smaller scale company was attempting to make a Holmes movie at the same time that massive blockbusters were about to hit the marketplace, a little educated research on my part turned up the fact that this was quite deliberate on the part of the production company - a reputable enough outfit with good production values and original scripts, they nonetheless specialise in what are 'homages' to the most popular blockbusters of the moment - aiming to capitalise on the popularity of the themes and characters which are biggest at the multiplexes and shift more units as a result. So, whilst I believe that this 'Sherlock Holmes' story is totally original, and in no way a 'rip off', it *is* intended to capitalise on the market for the blockbusters.

3. As to the roles that were being advertised on CCP - clearly, these had been part negotiated by a specific agency (working on behalf of the production company) with whom (as some will remember) there was a 'heated' correspondence over the rates at the time. The agency were working as mediators for the production company, and I believe it was the agency who posted the casting call to these forums. They have also published other casting breakdowns previously, but these were negotiated in conjunction with other orgainsations, rather than defined by the agency, which is why the rates have varied. Most CCPers were agreed that the rates offered here were extremely poor, given that they neither qualified for Equity minimum, and were just on the cusp of standard NMW. Ultimately, the responsibility for setting these rates was, we must assume, the production company's, who were looking to hire actors 'on the cheap', no doubt, and may well have spent expensively in securing their stars. All of this is reprehensible, and many questioned at the time whether an agency should be allowing rates so cheap to stand, but, given that *some* pay was offered, and that it may (just) have managed to make NMW (I cannot, in truth, remember the rates precisely), the set-up was presumably quite legal. None of this should be confused with e.g. Guy Ritchie's work, which has nothing to do with any of these issues!


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