Not so shiny Apple

  • David France

    Actor

    I use Final Cut for editing and have long been a loyal Apple man. 3 Apple computers and an iPod Nano have all died on me in the past 10 years. As I sit here waiting for "the next available representative" to assist me shortly (forty minutes and counting), I've made a decision. I no longer love Mac. I hate Mac. I'm getting a PC...

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    Don't Do it!! There are Indie apple technicians in Bristol I believe who apparently are great... I've never had to use them though.

    As a Microsoft guy who saw the light 9 yrs ago I think it can only be a backward step! ;-)

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    Don't Do it!! There are Indie apple technicians in Bristol I believe who apparently are great... I've never had to use them though.

    As a Microsoft guy who saw the light 9 yrs ago I think it can only be a backward step! ;-)

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  • Mark Kempner

    Actor

    I sympathise...but I bet I can outdo your repair list with

    My windows and pc breakdowns and deaths!!!

    I would seriously re-consider your kit before going to PC

    Mind you the guts of the latest apple kit is no different to PC stuff now...but tghe apple opperating sytem is better? No viruses!!

    I use adobe premiere pro to edit on bespoke self built kit and it flys and works...but now and again it throws a paddy for no ruddy reason!!! Grrrr. And when it does I sit there thinking....should I go the mac route?

    Tricky!!!

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  • David France

    Actor

    Appreciate your input. As you suggest, Mark, the new Macs are really just PCs with different operating systems. I know Vista was terrible but my experience of Windows 7 has been much better - another reason for switching. And, no, I'm not related to Bill Gates...

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    Bill Gates owns 30% of Mac ;-) .

    Vista was a poor attempt at Tiger / Leopard! But Windows 7 is ok.

    As Mark says they've shared all the same components for years, but the proof is in the software. Bugs, viruses and crashes wise I'll always choose a Mac over a Microsoft. Especially for editing!

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  • John Burton

    Actor

    I am called Apple in my house as a nickname - no idea why.

    I own an iMac, several iPods, an iPhone and an iPad (clue there somewhere I think!)

    One word - DON'T.

    These systems are the best around, if it is price driven then there are other options, if it isn't down to money - don't let the core go rotten!

    Apple are the best around.

    Keep with it.

    John "Apple" Burton

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  • User Deleted

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    Three Apple computers and an iPod Nano in ten years -- that's good! In ten years of PC use I've had much more failure than that. Currently I'm using PC but I'd rather be using Apple. Think twice before you switch allegiance.

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    Not sure my input is needed looking at all the previous posts...... BUT I have to echo everyone else's opinions - DON'T DO IT! I have had my MacBook for 2.5 years and I really don't know where I would be without it. What a shame that you have had such bad experiences with your Apple products - have you been tested to see if you are a strange conductor of electricity that damages electrical appliances?!

    I use my MacBook every day for the usual stuff (web, email etc.) but also to run my recording business. It is so reliable and I love the fact that I can turn it on and just get started without all the Windows drama. Every time I am 'forced' to use a PC for whatever reason, I am reminded why I am an Apple girl and always will be.

    I urge you to reconsider (I feel like I'm back on the debating team at high school making my case!).

    Yours in Apple,

    Lindsxx

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  • David France

    Actor

    Am deeply impressed by the amount of Apple love being shown here. Will think again...

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  • Mark Kempner

    Actor

    www.brighthub.com/computing/mac-platform/articles/61641.aspx

    It's always quite funny watching Mac users defend their bright white stuff....and PC users defend their chunky towers and laptops!

    However, the simple facts are: PC's and Macs are now almost identical inside. Both are personal computers. (PC's!!)

    Both items contain Motherboards, Processors, Graphic cards, RAM memory, hard drives etc etc. The MAC PRO is an example of a PC which can be built, modified etc in just the same way and with just the same parts as a windows based PC.

    The one essential difference is SOFTWARE. Also, Apple ancillaries like Iphones, Ipods and so on.....all match each other very well.

    However with the advent of WINDOWS 7 operating system.....the two items have become very similar in use and in reliability.

    Windows 7 is what Vista SHOULD have been and wasn't....VISTA is crap...and that's that.....though there are plenty of Vista happy users of course. XP was good, Vista broke much of it though....windows 7 came along and all is well again in the PC world....ha...geddit PC world!!

    Macs can and do get viruses.....but in general....hackers prefer to attack PC systems....as most large corporate systems are PC and windows based.

    From a graphics point of view, video editing etc....I would say Macs do probably rule, because of the lack of viruses and the reliability factors of the software. A Mac Opp system....is simpler in construction to Windows.

    Macs are very fashionable and that is the result of very very clever marketing......they are also far more expensive!! I bet there are several reading this who are doing so on a mac....why did you buy a mac....coz it looks good....Go on admit it...there are some of you who cannot deny that was your reason!!

    There is much more software available and its cheaper for a PC than there is a for a mac.

    So as you can see it's all swings and roundabouts at the end of the day and it depends what you use them for that counts.

    For Video and high end graphic work....if I could afford it....I'd prob go the Mac route. For general office and surfing, web use and emails....i'd buy a windows PC and save a lot of money, to have something just as good....and cheaper to put right and easier to put right too.

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  • David France

    Actor

    This is turning into "12 Angry Men", isn't it? Mark is clearly Henry Fonda and I'm the juror who keeps changing his mind...

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    12 Angry Men Totally!! :-)

    I agree with Mark that Hardware wise Macs and PC's don't differ. But Mark also hit the nail on the head with hackers! Microsoft is more commonly used and if the online rumour mill be true... Plenty of software programmers who have been ripped off by Microsoft have targeted the structure with bugs and viruses and always will.

    Mac's seldom get bugs and because of this I have never operated anti Virus software in 8 yrs of Mac ownership. That's a cost I do without. ..... Ahh costs... now the old thing is apparently PC's are cheaper..... Cost everything up that doesn't come as standard on a PC and I think you'll disagree. It's just more spread out!! Even with editing software.

    So to the negatives of Mac

    Initial purchase cost of mac is more and when you do get a problem you have to around the houses.

    Macs are now unfortunately really fashionable :-(

    It's a tool at the end of a day not a fashion statement!

    Right spod stuff over enjoy these...

    I dunno the answer .... LOL

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_kGL3M5Cg

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-22EpQOm8c&feature=related

    www.youtube.com/user/LatinoComedyProject#p/u/7/8OW-Gp2s7sM

    Best to all!!

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  • User Deleted

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    As someone who was always a mac-user at heart but a Windows user by force of economics until 2006, I have a good sense of both systems. I feel that they both perform well in their own categories.

    For me, a Mac is perfect because it's like the PC version of a console. I bought my iMac in 2006 and it's still performing really well most of the time. It gets a bit cranky sometimes if I try to play 1080p videos on flash sites, but I can actually play Starcraft 2 on this four-year-old hardware. I don't have to think about the internals too much and can enjoy the whole "it just works" aspect... Most of the time. Of course, anyone who's bought a printer without first checking if it's "mac compatible" knows that "it just works" is a bit of a misnomer in some cases.

    When I had Windows towers, I would always manage to get the wrong components, so I'd get a brand of RAM that didn't quite like my brand of graphics card, etc. There are tons of problems like that with windows machines. You have to be really careful to get components that work well together, not to mention components that will be fairly future proof. However, if you're INTO that sort of thing and enjoy tinkering with your computer to make it perform faster, quieter and more efficiently, then a Windows system is perfect. Same thing if you're a big PC gamer, as it's either impossible or insanely expensive to update a mac with the latest components.

    Speaking of components, macs are TECHNICALLY the same as Windows machines, but with a very important difference: Since the OS is built to only support a certain range of components and since Apple themselves put the machines together, they're always perfectly optimised.

    My wife has a Macbook Pro that she got at the same as her sister got a Zepto that had almost identical components. Wifey paid almost three times what her sister did for her mac, but the mac was lighter, more portable, and had a better screen. Two years on and her sister's computer is giving her no END of trouble. It's been in and out of repairs, and is just really annoying and performs a lot worse than my wife's mac. Why? The components are the same, more or less. Same processor, same graphics card. They run the same OS when they play games (She dual boots to Windows), so what's the deal? Macs are exquisitely engineered. There is not a cable out of place. Yes, they're the same, but they're also really not at all.

    So it's a trade-off. You can pay more for a sleeker, higher-quality machine that will last you longer and usually works really well, but you won't be much able to do upgrades.

    Sorry for the ramble.

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    I love these pisstakes!!

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhIisBi8Qv0&feature=search

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  • Mark Kempner

    Actor

    Oh well in that case....you will love this:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

    The I RACK

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    Brilliant Mark right up my street!! Spot on and very funny!!!

    As it's friday - I raise you

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCYD3kAnR5U&feature=search

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oElEv9coBw&feature=search

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  • Mark Kempner

    Actor

    he he....which one of them will get sued first huh?!!!

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  • Guy Press

    Actor

    Nope no suings!! :-)

    Just found this too - persist with it!!

    part 1

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW5bUkyi8h0

    Part 2

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAfSjh6_2Jk&feature=related

    part 3

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgLgCGpAiM0&feature=related

    Hope it tickles!!

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  • John Burton

    Actor

    Sad really that you have to find these.

    Either you like Apple or you don't, no need to slate them like this.

    You either like Apples or Pears - your choice.

    No need to castigate and create an anti fruit rebellion.

    Each to their own - without being ?????

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