Not too sure who's got the answer

Julie Hoult
Actor

Boy oh Boy there are so many false cyber viewers on my site which I don't pay for that waste of my time to view back - so CCP can you block these Cyber non voyeurs cos its annoying me now - I think you have been taken over - please no-one send me an essay what they are about or a reasoning - its getting 'a lickle bit' wrong now - plus I do pay for this service which I like


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Forbes KB
Actor

The majority are search engine robots and hackers with automated software looking for flaws in CCP's server security!

Chill out Jules! There are way more important things in this world to worry about than "Unrecognised User" hits on your CCP Profile!


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Hi!

You probably chose in the settings to publish your profile on Google which is why anyone can see it including robots.
If you chose the option to hide it from Google it will probably solve your problem.
I don't think CCP should do anything different as it's a good thing for most people that anyone can access the profiles. If they attempted to block some people, it would invariably block good people; like a spam filter always ends up blocking good emails.


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@Claire Dodin

My CCP profile has never been google visible so that would not solve this issue for Julie; as I get my share of these hits too.

@Forbes KB

Do you mean "Unregistered user"?

@Julie Hoult

CCP could do something about it and perhaps by making some necessary noise on the forum we may be able to stir them into action.

Any "Unregistered user IP: X0.X0.00.XX.0X Profile found via castingcallpro.com" is more than likely a genuine hit to the profile; anything not found via the CCP website should be viewed on as suspicious and blocked until verified.

These unwanted hits are blocked by other sites with a very easy bit of code to impliment and CCP are falling short here.

If someone from CCP is monitoring the forum; then why oh why do you not set up a challenge to verify whether there is actually a human being behind the website hit and not just some unwanted traffic from a bot?

Best.


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Julie Hoult
Actor

Over this weekend I have had 50 plus spotted botties plus who has invaded my profile - and that is way way over board on tally chart and will get worse - so I call simply to CCP to block and secure - they offered their free website to all actors to set up but if its opened a Stargate of connection from the exterior to CCP's site - then that is wrong -


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Julie Hoult
Actor

Yes Forbes you are absolutely right I am chilled And yes there are more important things - but - like we are and many more CCP ers we are on google Claire but every computer I switch on log into in my other job - I dont get a bombardment of botties - CCP I look forward to hearing on your security on what you are doing at the moment - because simply C and F it's awful


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Forbes KB
Actor

How do you know you don't get bombarded by the " bottles"? Maybe you do but you just don't get such a comprehensive report as the CCP system provides! My firewall also provides reports on the umber of times it's blocked access to my server but I have to go looking for it see it!

Too much information is a dangerous thing it appears!


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Julie Hoult
Actor

Hi Thanks for the response - I must be really atracting the hairy botties! - as I have never ever had so many of the lickle beggers en mass appear on my Profile - Oh well Patience I must, whilst World Domination is occurring before my eyes!


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@chris timms

Please could you inform us fee paying profile members what particular information is being harvested when you mention about the "good robots (those indexing useful data)"

And your closing statement "Please don't worry about the robots, just ignore them." smacks to me a little...

Move along now, nothing to see here!

Clearly people are unhappy about these hits on the profile as this is not the first time this subject has been raised.

Why don´t you add a challenge as I suggested previously or educate us as to how these so called "good robots (those indexing useful data)" serve and my fellow members?

Best.

Editorial Comment We have no idea what information the robots are trying to collect - but we do know your personal information (email, tel, address) is secure.

Robot's don't always tell us why they are indexing the page - but we do know exactly what they can see.

If you want to see what a robot can see, simply logout and then view your profile! The logged out view is the view the robot can see.




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Julie Hoult
Actor

Ok - after working today and now read re-read and read again- yep I would like to know the answer- because its still not right the evasion on CCP - tis niggling - especially when money escapes DD -

Editorial Comment Sorry we don't have any additional information to give you.

We don't know why the robots index your page - the information we do have (the robot ip number) we give you!

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Lee Ravitz
Actor

I am no tech head and so I don't know anything for certain, but I have always assumed that, whenever I run a search on myself (just to check what the Net is getting up to with my identity, you understand ;)), and discover that I am being listed by sites that I have never had any communication with, authorised to use my details, or added data to personally, this can only have come about thanks to bots mining data that *is* already present on *other* sites: ones that I have uploaded publicly accessible data to (if private files are being referenced, then there is some serious compromising of security going on). Now, this may be the sort of thing that disturbs some, but, from an actor's point of view, I suppose it can be argued that no publicity is bad publicity and by upping the number of forums that carry your publicly uploaded details (casting credits, stock photos, links to showreel etc.), I suppose the bots are at least also upping things like the ease with which search engines run positive searches on your name and so on. I don't know if that is what Chris is referring to in terms of the 'good bots', but perhaps he can enlighten us more.

Editorial Comment I'd say good bots are those building services such as google.com bing.com yahoo.com perhaps even facebook.com

But that's just a personal judgement - I'm quite sure many people consider google/yahoo/bing robots to be evil also.

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Julie Hoult
Actor

Ok - after working today and now read re-read and read again- yep I would like to know the answer- because its still not right the evasion on CCP - tis niggling - especially when money escapes DD -


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Tony Burden
Actor

I also wonder if Forbes point about the fact that you receive the information about a viewing (good, bad or Indifferent) only serves to elevate your fears, other sites don't offer viewing stats in such detail, so you may well be being data mined constantly but just don't know about it.

Editorial Comment This is certainly true.

If we wanted an easier life we'd simply hide these details from you - but some of our members do find these stats useful.

We run a service where we believe it's useful to give people as much information as possible - but it's up to you to decide how to use this information.

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Julie Hoult
Actor

Ok point 1 yep tis Julie Woolie here I swear that I don't repeat the button for more than once without an apology but it appears that I left my phone in the flat to go to the shop and I have been repeated making me look like a prick -oh CCP you sure you are not hacked and all CCP's


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Julie Hoult
Actor

Shutting down until I know this site is secure - can I have a meeting CCP


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Is it me, or is this post slightly hysterical.

The fact that we're reading this online, is because we are online.

If you are uncomfortable with being online then cancel your various subscriptions.

This site is relatively unique, in as much as it enables the user, to know roughly what they are getting for their money.

This is good.

And let's not forget...

Robots have feelings too.


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Tony Burden
Actor

I agree David and CCP editor. It's good information to have and not difficult to sift out the robotic elements.


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Julie Hoult
Actor

I don't do hysterical but I do have a niggle and yep £ nearly 20 per month X amount of years I would like to meet for the first time the Bods behind the sudden Bots etc that is all - you know what its like DD'ing online ain't the same as I would like to see the baseline or the peeps behind the desks that is all - no probs -


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I really have difficulty in understanding the problem here. Being on line trades off privacy for publicity. I suspect that my CCP profile is the first item on Google because of all the bots and the second item is my website referencing a good review. So if the site is secure I don't care how many bots are looking if it puts my acting above my lawyering references.

My CCP password is unique and not applicable to anything else that I do on line so there is no worry there. My contact details are there for a reason - to be contacted, hopefully by casting directors.


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@Editorial comment

"I'd say good bots are those building services such as google.com bing.com yahoo.com perhaps even facebook.com

But that's just a personal judgement - I'm quite sure many people consider google/yahoo/bing robots to be evil also."

Google, bing, yahoo and facebook?

Really?!? When I trace the IP location of some of these "Unregistered user"´s; I get remote areas of Russia and China.

Google, bing, yahoo and facebook?

Really?!?

Move along now, nothing to see here!

@Editorial comment

"This is certainly true.

If we wanted an easier life we'd simply hide these details from you - but some of our members do find these stats useful.

We run a service where we believe it's useful to give people as much information as possible - but it's up to you to decide how to use this information."

If you want an easier life, set up a challenge similar to the Spotlight website for instance; it´s not rocket science.

@David Vaughan Knight

It´s just you!

@Stephen Moriaty

"I really have difficulty in understanding the problem here."

So, refrain from posting until you do understand.

Best.

Editorial Comment >> Really?!? When I trace the IP location of some of these "Unregistered user"´s; I get remote areas of Russia and China.

Then I'd assume those aren't the google bing, yahoo or facebook robots.

Mind you these companies do now have data centers all across the globe, so it is possible. If you re-read my earlier comments you'll see I was saying we are indexed by both good and evil bots, and these were simply examples of who some of these 'good' robots might be working for. You'll be indexed by other robots, some good, some bad - it's often difficult/impossible to tell why a robot might be visiting your page.

>> If you want an easier life, set up a challenge similar to the Spotlight website for instance; it´s not rocket science.

Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by "set up a challenge similar to the Spotlight website". What kind of challenge, a competition?

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No dog in this fight, but the challenge refers to a widely used system called the Recaptcha Challenge, which Spotlight and many other websites use to ensure only real people (and not bots) can use that site. It's that thing where you have to read a word or code and type it into a text box.

Personally on my own site I'd never use a recaptcha to view, because I find it puts too many people off - though I do use the Robots Exclusion Standard.

Editorial Comment We use captcha for when people want to contact you, but we don't to view public profile information.

There is no reason to hide this information from robots, and using this type of system would exclude all robots including the good ones.

Robot Exclusion Standard is great, but the bad robots ignore it - hence why I refer to them as 'bad robots'*.

*It's not just because I like the work of J. J. Abrams

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