PCR

  • Beau Rambaut

    Actor

    To PCR or not to PCR?

    What do you think??

    x

    • 25th Jun 2008
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  • Jonathan Bowvey

    Actor

    Hello.

    I think it depends on if you have the spare cash lying around? Its quite expensive ( Like every thing in this industry.) I used to get PCR; And it did have some good breakdowns in it.But hopfully your agent puts you up for the same roles as advertised....plus more!!!

    I hope that made sense?

    Jon xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Alan Brent

    Actor

    The trouble with PCR is that it seems that there is a timetable of distribution for it.

    The Agents get them first, then actors later. This of course means that actors only get late or later casting information by which time agents have sent in their submissions and the casting people are usually covered for the roles.

    Now that was a few years ago that I got that information but it is unlikely to have changed. Your agent will no doubt get a copy. So quicker and cheaper to go to their office and see it there!

    I have not, in my experience, ever heard of anyone getting work off PCR unless it was first submitted from an agency.

    Has anyone any other experience to negate that?

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Antonio Rochira

    Actor

    I have only ever had short or student films off it...as is already mentioned the 'plum' roles are normally cast by the time the actor gets PCR

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Beau Rambaut

    Actor

    I had no idea that was the case. Thats terrible. Do the agents pay more..? Maybe thats why they get it first?

    S xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Kevin Patrick Buxton

    Actor

    Hi Sophie, you will probibly find that agents dont have to pay, all funding being found from the very people who are the least able to afford it, i.e us. I found it to be of no use at all, Im interested to hear any other comments. Hope this helps, It would seem the general thinking is "dont bother" Kevin

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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    I get PCR but I agree that the 'good' roels are not very easy to come across in it, its a bit more of a crumb trail to be honest. If I see soemthing interesting I tell my agent and they look into who the CAsting is being done by etc - no way I could get near the role alone. However for news on up and coming productions etc it is helpful but I have had jobs from the low budget/student end from it and I think it is better on the theatre side than film/tv - more range of jobs. It is good if you want ot get some filming under your belt ie the student low budget things but I agree with all the previous comments - if you agent has it read theirs.

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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    PCR's not amazing but there's some good stuff in there if you have the time to really scour it and you don't expect to find good jobs in every issue.

    Also, to make it cheaper - chip in with friends and get it between you! We do that and it only costs me about £2 a month! Bargain!

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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    Oh also .....on their website if you subscribe you have access to their last minute breakdowns - these are usually commercials but some times can be very good, but again you agent should be looking at these too.

    xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Beau Rambaut

    Actor

    Great Idea on pooling PCR. What a saver in money. xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Jonathan Bowvey

    Actor

    Hi Sophie.

    Like i said in my previous post....If you have money to burn, then ride with it. if i'm honest,;The reason i stopped getting PCR,Is for the reasons explained in 'Kevins' posting! You are better off letting your agent put you up for things rather than applying through PCR publication!!xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Beau Rambaut

    Actor

    It's funny Johnathon I tell myself continuously that I have abundent amounts of money but I'm never too sure how reliable that really is.

    I think as an actor you always think... well I'll just give it a try... then, before you know it your poor. Ho Humm!

    x

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Jonathan Bowvey

    Actor

    Sophie.

    Yes, i know that feeling well!!!

    ( Oo..i feel a song coming on.)xx

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Beau Rambaut

    Actor

    He he! I'm breaking out in song as I write this.

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Alan Brent

    Actor

    Save your money! As has been pointed out the only castings you would get would probably have appeared on here in the first place or on other casting websites. Bearing in mind the time it takes to publish and distribute them you would probably have the 'jump' on castings anyway!

    By the way, are you both singing from the same song sheet? Or in the same key?

    I'll put you in tune....laaaaaah.

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Jonathan Bowvey

    Actor

    Oh Alan.

    That key is to high for me!!!

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Alan Brent

    Actor

    Try this then ...looooooh

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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    About eight years ago I used to be in an actors cooperative agency. So got to see on awful lot of casting information. Agents then got a thing called SBS and we certainly didn't waste our money on PCR as an actors Co-op.

    My actor friends who were not in my Co-op would mention jobs the had just written for from PCR, which I knew had held their auditions a few weeks ago and were now fully cast. So certainly eight years ago a lot of the information in SBS was misleading.

    Now it is absolutely essential that you are in Spotlight as 95% of the casting happens through Spotlight interactive. Agents get to see the good jobs vie Spotlight to a greater or lesser extent, depending on their status in the agent pecking order. Actors without agents who are c/o of spotlight will get to see some crumbs.

    Equity has its own job information service which is included in the price of your Equity fee. All the jobs on the and Equity's website are up-to-date and accurate as they are placed there by the employer. So personally I would not waste my money on SBS but make sure that I am both a member of Equity so that I can see Equity's job information as well as benefit from all the other help, support, services, networking events and information Equity provides.

    After Equity and Spotlight - if you have money to spare then and only then fork out for yet another job information service as a lot the time you are paying to see the same jobs.

    But do not choose anything over your Equity membership and Spotlight as in my personal opinion I would always prioritised these two things.

    Cheers

    TRACEY

    • 23rd Jun 2008
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  • Blake J Askew

    Actor

    PCR is good to a degree but much of it is rumours- that said- I have gotten a few good auditions from it and got manfield park last year as well, which I even managed to get them to pay me for as it was last minute and I was filling in for an actor who walked out, so it did do me well.

    The thing is no matter what the thing- PCR, etc ... agents get the inside scoop before us usually.

    • 24th Jun 2008
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  • Lee Ravitz

    Actor

    Broadly, I think PCR is a more useful tool for the jobbing actor with little in the way of broader industry contacts, who is not respresented by an agent or who gets very little work via the agency etc. If you have a fairly high profile within the industry (even if the work only comes in sporadically) then I don't feel that 99% of the time PCR will be offering you any options which will prove rewarding to pursue. Which is not to say that you can't generate work by means of it - I have had a large number of auditions, and been cast two or three times on the basis of casting breakdowns which came by way of PCR.

    But, essentially, the material that appears in PCR breaks down into three categories:

    1. Low budget/fringe work, which is genuinely current, but will not, by any means, appeal to all actors, and which *is* generally to be found advertised elsewhere. There is no mystery in this: the directors/producers of such work are generally all too painfully aware that they cannot offer their casts anything much more than goodwill, enthusiasm and a small profit cut, perhaps, and yet without a cast, their project will never materialise - so they try to bombard as many outlets with advertisements as possible, in the hope of finding performers. Naturally, there are many promising projects that emerge from the fringe, but all the problems that apply to working for lo/no pay projects are also perpetuated by PCR's encouragement of this type of work.

    2. Higher profile work in provincial rep theatre and West End, often quite specialised (e.g.musical theatre), and almost invariably based on outdated information. It is not so much that the original breakdown was not correct when PCR picked it up, just that it takes so long for them to process this material that, by the time it is printed, you can rest assured that large numbers of applicants represented by proactive agents will already have bombarded the casting panel with applications. The chances of your getting seriously considered for these roles through a PCR based application are low thanks to the delay, although not totally impossible - if, for example, there has proven to be difficulty filling the part, and you seem to suit it well, you might be considered even at a late stage in the casting process.

    3. Virtually all feature film based material is given into PCR's hands by 'stringers' and offers no option to become involved with the project. Although some actors appear to assume that, if PCR have mentioned an upcoming project and the casting director attached to it has been revealed, this somehow inaugurates 'open season' on that casting director's time, the truth is, again, that the chances of being picked out from an unsolicited application are the lowest of the low. This is not least because most casting directors on high profile projects are *not* releasing the information to PCR (only the projects which specifically give contact details are doing so). PCR is simply printing the info without their agreement. This helps PCR to justify its costs to you, as they can always maintain that reproducing the information offers you a 'service', but, at the same time, they try and distance themselves from any commitment by stating that 'contact with casting directors should be held off, unless otherwise offered'. They know full well that most casting directors find unsolicited material sent to them when they are in the midst of casting a high profile project to be a tremendous annoyance. It's all just printed for show.

    Personally, I purchase it sometimes when I can afford it. It is a better job provider than an organ like The Stage, in my humble opinion, but this is probably not saying much in 2008!!

    • 24th Jun 2008
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