Dear Subscribers and would-be Subscribers,
Further to the post entitled Verified Credits I have proposed to Mandy that they allow our input on this part of their otherwise very friendly and intuitive interface.
As this post has appeared Mandy are already showing their truth when they say, the website is built for its members and while no guarantees are given it could be that our decision here will be then implemented by the very people who we pay our subscriptions to, which surely affirms our decision to pay Mandy rather than their competitors.
My feelings on this: The system is not fit for purpose. Therefore serves only to frustrate members that are honest and uses a compliance procedure so porous that it is no way a deterrence to those that wish to deceive.
A furtherment of this is available on the Verified Credits string but what do you think?
Have you found an employer that has referenced your completely verified credits and chosen you over the actor they first chose? Conversely, have you after successfully completing a job, been told they are reshooting as they have found you to have been lying about the details of a student film you said you once did?
Nobody here is getting jobs based on their CV's, perhaps an audition, so you could waste someones five minutes or, and more importantly steal an audition from a better-qualified candidate but then when didn't that happen through nepotism, the friends' ring or the Me2 couch?
End the verification madness now.
Eden
As you say, someone who wants to try and cheat would not find it difficult to subvert the system. I wonder whether any employer has ever considered it useful.
It seems to me a waste of time and can only be cause of worry. Retire it!
"it could be that our decision here will be then implemented by the very people who we pay our subscriptions to". No, they won't. Mandy is here to make money, nothing more. They have no interest in what 'we' want. As to verified credits... I've never bothered getting any of my jobs verified, so I just ignore them. It's a pointless system... They're effectively saying 'we think you might be lying', and any employer should realise that and give them as much credence as they deserve - i.e. none.
Definitely scrap it. I never ask for verification. I really don't want to be taking up Production's valuable time with irritating requests post-production to confirm whether or not I did the gig.
100% agree with you Eden, the verification process definitely needs scrapping! I have 96 (and counting!) unverified credits (as Mandy likes to remind me every time I log in). When I'm not working I spend my time applying for roles, updating showreels, updating websites, chasing overdue invoices and requesting footage/images from jobs. The thought of adding emailing every employer to ask them to verify my credits is preposterous. Many of these clients are huge production companies who simply aren't interested in what or who Mandy is! Some of these jobs come through my agent and therefore THEY would have to chase the client, something they would simply refuse to do. I've been a member of Mandy for 10 years (and prior to that I was a member of Dancers Pro for many years) and I have never and will never verify my credits because I know that they are genuine credits and I won't waste mine, nor the production companies time by doing so. Listen to your long standing subscribers Mandy and perhaps be a little stricter on criteria when allowing people to sign up.
Yep, get rid. I have never bothered and never will. Spotlight doesn't patronise us like this, and the acting profession as a whole managed for decades with SHOCK! HORROR! unverifiable paper CVs before things got digital.
As others have said, Mandy should better spend their time properly policing who is allowed to join the site rather than bothering experienced, properly trained actors with this nonsense.
I would feel unprofessional chasing production people to verify my credits and think that there should be a better minimum standard to get a profile on this site
Yes scrap it! I accidentally got one of my credits verified at the end of last year and have had to hide it on my c.v. as it now looks like all the other jobs are fake.
I think it's a useless function.
YES! Scrap it! I'm an actor again now and none of my credits have been verified. I can guarantee that I've done everything listed. Having also worked as a director, I've found it pretty tedious to be sent e-mails to verify actors I've worked with which is why I will never, ever, ever, contact anyone I've worked with to ask them to verify a credit. That. Is. All.
YES. Some people are very creative about lying. A good casting person will be able to judge a performer by their showreel/self-tape/audition, etc. And if they can't, well a better performer may lose the job but the production may struggle to get the kind of performance they really wanted. And twas ever thus....
I think we have all established it’s completely useless like Heather said, it’s very easy to manipulate, a casting director can spot extras credits on a C.V a mile away.
I’ve seen some shocking examples of it this “Leaflet Receiver” on a well know reality TV show. Who is going to verify that I wonder?!
I can’t understand how these people are allowed access to the same job market when they have no real credits, none professional headshots and no training. Yet here we are, It wouldn’t happen in other profession.
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