I have asked that the owners/operators of CastCall Pro remove Emily Parr from this site. She is a disgrace, both to herself and her family, the Industry she professes to be or want to be a part of, etc etc. Read her quotes pre-BB and you'll see that this person revelled in the idea of being outspoken and offensive. Fine. That's her right. One (minor) price to be paid for this however should be her exclusion from this site.
It is interesting Pierre when it is put like that and totally true. I think the whole Celeb Big Bro racism issue was blown hugely out of proportion. PC has gone way overboard (don't get me started on not being able to call the lights on Oxford St "Christmas Lights" or not being able to say "Christmas Holidays" in some work places)
I do wonder if MWarbuton has actually read and heard the context in how the comment was made,or if he just heard the word "Racism in Big Brother" and decided his immediate opinion on it.
It was definately an incredibly stupid thing to say but what I find interesting is that what Jade Goody said was meant to be an insult and she wasnt thrown out. What Emily said was her trying to be friendly (in an incredibly stupid way!)So it seems to me that because she is not a 'celebrity' she is thrown out giving acorss the image to younger more impressionable viewers that the same rules dont apply to 'celebrity's' and that they should be treated diferently from the rest of us. Not that I watch the damn programme but its impossible not to know whats going as the media term this as important news.
I watched a bit of the programme last night, I found it quite interesting by the girls reactions. They must be very bored in that house! Mountain and Molehill came to mind.
Emily was told off by the girls and she accepted it with good grace and they "moved on".
In light of the last BB the removal of Emily was probably the "safest" thing to do.
I don't think a person should be removed or excuded from CCP due to their beliefs or values. It is when others try to force their values or beliefs on others I have a problem.
In some circles the n word is everyday slang; we hear it in music and in films, will they be censoring MTV next?
BB did not have to view what happened, editing could have occurred but I think that it showed them in a better light to make an example of Emily.
ok I think the whole situation was blown out of proportion and she was indeed made a scape goat for all that shilpa stuff.
The context in which she said it was not racist at all... calling for her to be removed from this site I think is extreme.. Let the people who employ us decide whether they want her or not.
Absoultely agree with those saying it's been blown out of proportion. Clearly all that happened here was a naive white girl made an ill advised faux "hip-hop" impression and that's it. Channel Four/Endomol have completely over reacted and Big Brother has now probably helped damage yet another person's life. How proud the execs must be. Emily Parr will be aware it was a daft thing to do, but castigating her for this mistake is a totally different thing to the persistent racist bullying that was the root of this issue.
I think it's a bit much to request she be removed from CCP for saying what she said in the context it is represented in the music she was quoting, and not in a derogatory way which would obviously be another matter entirely.
Still haven't seen BB, refuse to, so can't comment on contexts nor join the general 'It's political correctness gone mad' hysteria.
But this I will say. Just because certain members of black society choose to use the word 'nigger', it shows remarkable insensitivity and plain stupidity to assume that it's a word that can be used to all black people - especially if the user happens not to be black himself. I would have thought this scarcely needed explaining, the word being so fraught with painful history.
It's an awful and hideous word and for the life of me I can't understand why ANYONE would want to use it.
The fact that it is used at all within the black community is bizarre and (imho) very sad.
I watched a TV programme that dealt with this issue a while back and it was suggested that by using it, the black community now had 'ownership' of it and therefore the strength and derogatory affect of the word had been taken away.
I also very much agree with Forbes here. If people were removed from this site because of mistakes, rudeness, fax pas or similar, there wouldn't be many left!
I'm not gonna get into this discussion properly yet, however I do not agree that Emily should be booted from CCP.
To kick her out of CCP is ridiculous. The BB situation is different, but it has nothing to do with her work. Even if she was exhibting racism (which I don't believe she was), that is no grounds to delete her from the site.
I belive that Emily made a big big mistake, but at the same time she had no intent in offending anyone or trying to be abusive to any race or gender. Once again Channel 4 have made a sceptical out of the situation. Yes there was live footage but that doesn't mean that they had to edit the programme and show it on prime time tv. The fact that she said such a word obviously offends many people and I totaly agree that this word shouldn't be used, but in the context it was said it was not an offensive statement. She was wrong to say it but if anyone watched it they will realise that there was no intent in her words. I disliked her because she was extremeley bitchy and obviously in it to get exposure. She caused arguments and she didn't like it when she wasn't centre of attention, but isn't that the game?
Unfortunately her career is now tarnished from a big mistake she made, only her own fault of course.
I only hope that she has learnt from this mistake and that the media doesn't make an issue out of her departure.
People make mistakes and she is a fool to have made such a remarke, but lets not tarnish her for that.
She has in no way replicated the celbrity BB incident, which involved bullying and intent cruelty. The remarke Emily made to her fellow house mate was silly and she was good friends with her. The girl in question has stated she was not offened in any way.
Has Michael Warburton watched the behaviour of Charley Uchea on "Big Brother"?
From my point of view Uchea appears to be on something of a similar name! She is the typical BB "Miss Nasty" stereotype! She is insecure and this insecurity translates itself into aggressive and unacceptable behaviour to other members of that ubiquitous "household".
Emily Parr is an attractive and cultured young girl and has been made a scapegoat for a comment that can hardly be deemed as racist nor indeed could she be called racially motivated!
Charley Uchea, together with C4 and its dubious editing, appear to be milking the scenario for all they can get out of it!
I am so glad that MOST of you can see the incident in its proper perspective.
We can infer that Michael Warburton is one of those inflexible opinionated bigots who will forever call a spade a shovel and a concrete mixer a child's toy!
Please remember this, today's news is tomorrows chip paper eg jade getting work again!!!!! But she however will have to live with this blot for the rest of her life let her deal with it. It will be a harsh lesson and maybe make her think first before opening her mouth in future that there has to be some good come out of it. Who are we to play God! I say don't boot her off. Slapped wrists yes but thats it!
I can only comment on this situation from having watched it on the news as I haven't been watching Big Bro this year. However, having paid close attention to this thread it would seem that Ms Parr may have been naive and stupid to have used such an offensive word but her intentions were not deliberately malicious.
The same cannot be said of this thread as a whole though. The rules of the forum state that we should not make libellous and/or personally insulting remarks yet Mr Warburton's purpose in starting this discussion seems to be exactly that to me. Lest we forget, Ms Parr is a member of CCP and therefore can read these remarks. Whatever we may think of her, does anybody not think that publically discussing this is in any way helpful to her and could be causing HER a lot of distress? Is this not a case of the pot and the kettle? We criticise someone for their comments and then (semi-) publically denegrate them?
Once again Channel 4 and Endemol have succeeded in turning Big Bro into a talking point. There have been many threads about the way in which reality tv is taking jobs from actors and here we are fuelling the reality fire.
Shouldn't we just stop now?
Black people started using the word nigger in an attempt to neutralize it, the way gay people have 'reclaimed' the word 'poof' and 'queer' to some extent. Most of us, though, feel that attempt has not been successful, and that it is still offensive. Therefore, although we might be angry with black people who use it, we understand where they are coming from. Non-blacks who use the word, however, do not have that cultural sanction, and surely they can't presume to believe that it's all right with all blacks to be called that name.
I know a large lady who calls herself 'fat bitch'. I'm not going to presume all women size 16 and over are OK with that.
Every big brother i can think of has had some derogatory comments about gay people. No one cared. No one got thrown out there. Its all media spin because of the Jade incident.
Of course anyone being intentionally racist, homophobic etc should go as its cruel BUT if its purely in banter, which i think it was then its totally mountains out of molehills.
I have lots of mates who joke about my sexuality and Iv no problem at all. (But then my kind are so witty) ha ha!. People have to realise by allowing certain sectors of their own 'group' permissions to use certain labels and no one else may well be fine but surely that should be the people you love i.e. mates rather than just people who share your skin colour or preferences in bed. Id be much more appalled if a random on the street called me 'queer' regardless of his own sexuality than a st8 mate....or even someone Id met briefly but they new Id be fine with it.
You know when people are having a real dig or not.
Emily Parr was stupid but to say shes a real racist is unfair and as for the removing from this site ...GET A GRIP. Ridiculous knee jerk reaction.
Well, at least Emily Parr knows that the majorioty of the theatre industry on CCP is still behind her as a person and is willing to concede that it was silly, but life must go on...and the most of us are being pretty forgiving about it actually.
I do not condone racist behaviour. However I think people need to rememeber she is only 19yrs old!!!! We all make mistakes! And sir, those without sin cast the first stone!
As a young person I'd like to say on the streets today people use all types of words that over time have had the meaning changed! It's all about black people 'taking back the word'. Thats why you hear it so much in urban songs. I understand why some people have done this but personally I think it is a horrible word and therefore NOONE should use it!!!!
She is a silly girl and I think she knows that. But lots of people i have heard speaking about it, have said that, that word is used between young people as a way to "greet" or connect with each other. As do the words Blood, Bruv, Cuz and many more! in america its seen alot more.
I agree with 'forbesKB' in saying that dont you think you should offer advise instead of condemning her for life or so it seems!!!!
We don't know her, that's the point. She could well be racist, or just a girl who made an ignorant mistake (or lots of ignorant mistakes as current news stories would allude to). We just don't know.
There is a very controversial point here. Emily had to be removed from the BB house, because what she said could be construed as "incitement to racial hatred", as she was in a public forum, being broadcast to the world.
HOWEVER, in her private life, and I know this is going to sound very strange, but IF SHE IS racist (which again, we don't know so can't judge), that is a human right. People have a right to FEEL any way they want, be it criminal, racist, etc, as long as they don't afflict, harm or offend anyone else. If we could not feel whatever we wanted, it really would be Big Brother, Orwell-style.
Therefore, regardless of her actions in BB, CCP is entirely separate, and her thoughts toward race hold no bearing on her having a profile here.
I do not agree with what she said one bit, and thought it was pretty awful.
But we can't kick her off a website that has nothing to do with that - this a democracy, and as such we cannot punish people for having certain views and political leanings.
There are lots of actors who aren't nice people, just as there are in any occupation.
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