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    So I have been emailed back from a very good Agency saying they would like to invite me to their summer school where after the students have a definate place to audition for their agency...thing is it costs £295 and is next month. I do not have that spare and especially with the summer school been in july I could save near enough!

    I have to email them back with something...any one know what I can do...Id love to be represented by them but simply cannot afford to attend the summer school!

    ahhhhhhhh!

    Help!

    ....Thanks!

    Kayle

    • 6th Jul 2011
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    Just tell them exactly what you've told us. You would love to be represented by them, but you simply cannot afford the summer school. Surely, their representation of you is not conditional on you attending their summer school, is it? If so, maybe they're not the ones for you.

    Explain the situation, I'm sure they'll understand.

    Good luck

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  • Forbes KB

    Actor

    I'm always very suspicious of people offering you things with one hand that cost a fair bit of money while dangling a carrot with the other...especially as the carrot is not guaranteed!

    I'd take Stefan's advice on this! Be open and up front about your financial situation and state you'ld very much like to audition for them anyway and maybe next year you'ld be in a better position, with all the work they'd be getting you, do do their summer school next year! :-)

    x

    • 25th Jun 2011
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  • Catherine Stobbs

    Actor

    I too am always suspicious of things like this. I recently contacted an agent and they said they were interested but I look a lot like someone else on their books. Fair enough, but they then went on to say that if I attended a casting workshop they might change their minds.

    They now bombard me with adverts for their courses!!

    Trust your instincts and never part with any money, that is my advice.

    Good luck x

    • 25th Jun 2011
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  • Tamzin Dunstone

    Actor

    So you spend your very hard earned cash on a summer school after which you MAY be invited to audition for a place at the agency. What happens if they don't like your audition? You've lost precious money and guess who's laughing all the way to the bank. I don't imagine you would be the only one on the summer school so suddenly they are making a lot of money.

    Like the others have suggested, I would write back saying you would love to audition and be represented by them but that you cannot afford the summer school at this moment in time. If they ignore you then I'm afraid it looks a tad suspicious.

    Good luck with it.

    Tz

    :-)

    • 25th Jun 2011
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  • Farah Sardar

    Actor

    They are dangling a carrot in front of your nose to get you to part with their money. Why pursue an agent that operates this way? Look elsewhere. You deserve better.

    • 25th Jun 2011
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    This was my thought exactly!

    But this agency is quite big with a few TV soap characters on its books...And they way the email was worded...'soenso soenso has asked me to contact you persoanlly' lalalalaaaa!

    I think I like what you are all saying and like you say Forbes If i know about the next one earlier. I could say I would be willing to take the next summer school they do etc. I also have an audition one of the days of the summer school so I should just tell all be honest and It might get me somewhere.

    Thank YOUUUUUUUUUUU

    kayle xx

    • 25th Jun 2011
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  • Lee Ravitz

    Actor

    I think this thread sounds pretty wrapped up by now, but I just thought I would agree with all of what has previously been said. It's quite right to be suspicious of *any* agency, big or small, who appear to be asking for you to pay towards your own potential representation. It is also quite right to remark that it may be one thing to be offered *representation* on the basis of attending the summer school (slightly dubious though that may be), and quite another to be offered the chance to *audition* for representation *after* you have attended the summer school. There are no guarantees here at all!

    But the most obvious question is simply this: do you think that most of the impressive names on the books are there because they paid several hundred pounds to the agency to attend their summer school etc. etc.? In truth, the answer is almost certainly no. They gained their representation because they negotiated a decent contractual deal with an agent who was interested in sourcing work for them as a client. At least, I certainly hope so. And, really, if they are prepared to do this for their other clients, the agency concerned should be prepared to do it for you also if they are in the process of making a genuine offer.

    However, I wouldn't say this sort of institutional behaviour is unusual within the industry, even from well respected institutions. I was commenting not too long ago on the amount of people who do RADA sponsored courses, as opposed to the number who actually train at RADA. Without wishing to put too fine a point on this, I am certain the entry level barrier to get onto a RADA summer course is not quite so high as it is to actually get into the school to train for three years! This is beacuse, at the end of the day, a summer course can afford to take on individuals of promise to whom no further guaranteed commitment need be made, whereas a three year intake has to be carefully considered. The same game appears to be in play here.

    What may have happened is that you are pitching at an agency with a strong reputation who don't tend to seriously consider actors without extensive credits for representation. They may be prepared to meet a promising, but untested, actor halfway by suggesting they work on the course, prove their mettle, and, if they like what you do, be prepared to offer you, say, six months worth of trial representation. At the same time, if they don't feel you make the grade, they have still made money at your expense. A canny business strategy, but not, I suspect, any good for you as representation - you ideally want a pretty unconditional demonstration of interest in what you have to offer as the first prerequisite of any potential representative!

    • 25th Jun 2011
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    Could you let me have the name of this Agent please? I must keep away from these parasites

    Siva

    • 26th Jun 2011
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  • Matt Andrews

    Actor

    Great replies, everybody. Especially you, leeravitz. I'm looking for an agent too and it's good to hear experience in dealing with them.

    • 27th Jun 2011
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    I think you ought to say the name of the agency concerned.

    • 27th Jun 2011
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  • Carrie Cohen

    Actor

    Avoid. If you need extra training take a course at Actors' Centre or one personally recommended elsewhere. If they are really legitimate then tell them they can take the fee for the summer school out of the first well-paid job they get you! (Years' ago an well-known extras agency did exactly that; took their "book fee" from clients' first jobs.)

    • 27th Jun 2011
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  • User Deleted

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    never ever pay an agency for an audition! thats ludicrous!

    • 27th Jun 2011
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    I have recieved a similar email in fact it may well be from the same agency. I was vey suspicious of it and didn't reply at all. I wonder how many people they are doing this to?

    • 27th Jun 2011
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  • Mark Joseph

    Actor

    No, no, no, that is all.

    • 27th Jun 2011
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  • Vivien Taylor

    Actor

    It's a money making exercise. Well that's what it sounds like to me!

    Either they're interested in auditioning you or they're not.

    Are these soap people still with them?

    Honestly, the fact that you've posted this in the first place shows that your gut feeling about it is a bit funny.

    If I were you, say that you're very interested in auditioning for them as an agency but due to prior commitments over the next few months, you're unable to attend the summer school. If they write back and say they're only seeing people at the summer school, it's a big fat con. :( ie they're getting people to pay to audition for them :S ie like these dodgy model agents that advertised for people in the papers to attend castings and pay for photos. :S

    I hope that whatever happens, you get yourself a fabulous agent :D

    xxx

    • 28th Jun 2011
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  • User Deleted

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    I've only just caught up with this thread...

    All important cautions seem to have been covered.

    Just a tip: Treble check any 'stars' current representation via Spotlight.

    • 28th Jun 2011
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    I am somewhat puzzled as to why you are being so cryptic and not divulging the name of the agency. I think you should 'NAME AND SHAME' them. It will send a warning signal to the others as well.

    Regards

    Siva

    • 28th Jun 2011
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  • Vivien Taylor

    Actor

    As CCP previously posted, you're not allowed to name and shame on this public forum for legal reasons.

    XX

    • 28th Jun 2011
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  • Farah Sardar

    Actor

    Ok then just give us a clue..........

    • 28th Jun 2011
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