voiceover work

just thought I would suggest it to those who haven't thought about it... try and get some voiceover work - money is excellent when you do get work. I've been doing voiceovers since I arrived in London 12 years ago and I know how hard it is to get an agent when you start but it's like everything else, if you work hard at it you can take off. And beside, you can be on the marketplace even without an agent - I have representatino but am also on www.voicefinder.biz, and like I said in another thread, it's an invaluable source for anyone interested in voiceovers. Good luck!


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That's brilliant- so does it really work?
I'm always dubious of these sites, but if you're getting plenty of work from it...
I used to work in V/O and lost my contacts, so I want to get back!
Does being a New Talent member put anyone off?
Thanks for the tip!
Sally


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I think that if you did VO work before you won't qualify for new talent - but to answer your question, I guess on one hand producers who are looking for a safe pair of hands wouldn't book someone tagged New Talent, but on the other hand they might want to look for someone fresh, or with whom they can do a deal with... A New Talent would be likely to take longer in a session so making a deal is fair enough. It's a personal decision at the end of the day, how confident you are in your VO skills might help you to make this decision.
I know what you mean about being dubious about internet services, they are quite few clowns out there! I think that it pays to look at how the website is built because it shows how well they understand the industry. Also, look at what they bring to the community: are they just interested in your cash, or are they bringing something that may help the industry? Also, how are they reaching the industry? What are they doing to attract users? Are they visible in the industry? Once you consider all those things I think it's easier to take a decision. The way I see it, castingcallpro.com website is well designed, navigation works, good service, same goes to voicefinder.biz. But then, I don't expect them to deliver golden jobs in a silver plate - I network a lot, have business cards etc... to market myself. I use those sites as a shopfront, and it's great when I'm cast through them, it means that the industry I'm targeting use those site to find guys like me!


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a post in the stage forum which you guys might find interesting - if you want to continue the conversation here that'd be interesting what are your takes on this issue. I make a living doing voiceovers so am very interested to know how other actors view this side of the industry

http://www.thestage.co.uk/stagetalk/viewtopic.php?t=3613&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


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I found it very interesting reading your comments. Voice over is an area i havent worked in but would like to. I am keen to find a voice over agent. How didi you get yours? did you send a voice demo to them? i have recently done some radio plays for bbc and am in the process of putting together an audio showreel. I would like to know how you marketed yourself to your voice agent.


many thanks

nathan sussex


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Hannah Timms
Actor

Just wondering if anyone knows of any good places to get a voice reel done?


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'crying out loud' are a good company to record voice reel with!!!


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Nathan, first thing I'd say is, when I started in UK 12 years ago, internet didn't exist (well it did but it wasn't the tool it is today!!!) so there was no option to be seen through it using portals etc - the only route was agents. But before putting yourself on the market through agents and portals, I'll say what I've already said in the thread I posted the link of: practice reading aloud, sightreading, different intenetions with the same copy, etc... Ask for constructive criticism from people you know won't be kind with you for the sake of it, take those on board.

Then, have a showreel made by professionals - it needs to be not only professionally produced, recorded on professional gear, in a professionally set up recording studio, but also HAS TO look professional if you want to stand a chance for your showreel to be listened to - any handwritten thing and it's straight to the bin.

For your showreel pick what you're going to put on your demo according to your strengths. A good idea is to go to this page
http://www.voicefinder.biz/?page=casting_room&subpage=search_by_criteria
and do a search for a voice similar to yours - listen to the showreels of your competition, how they've done it, the material used etc...
I'd also advise you to read this page
http://www.voicefinder.biz/?page=voices_join_here&subpage=your_demo
loads of info about demos - and while you're there why not browse the rest of the help pages, a gold mine for anyone in the VO biz.

And then the game begins! You'll send your CD to all the agents (there's a VO agents directory on the same website)... and chances are you'll hear nothing. You'll call them, and they'll say they haven't had the time to listen to your demo, or that their books are full. How can you persuade them they should take you on? Do some work and show them you are a 'viable product'. How to get some work without being represented? This is the luck you have compared to when I started: you have voiceover portals. Having said that, there's no garanty they'll accept you: good ones will only pick people with good showreels. Other websites will be happy to take anyone's money even if their demo is recorded in their loos! Some are cheaper than other, then again they may be just a website, they don't market it, nobody in the industry knows they exist... they're ghosts! So all I'm saying is, do your research before you apply - it's an investment. See how the website feel? Does it look professional? What's the content? How is it helping people who use it (the producers) and the artists?
See it that way: would you rather pay £10 to be in an obscure directory never distributed, or £100 to be in the yellow pages?
Having said that, being on the free ones can't hurt, but don't expect the moon!

Then you might discover that you work enough through it and don't want a VO agent, or you'll still want a VO agent. If you do, having done VO work will help to convince them that they'd be quids in with you.
Hannah, if you go to the page I've posted the link of above, they have a list of reputable people who do demos.
Best of luck!


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By the way, I forgot to say - if any of you need help, tips or advice about this side of the industry I'd be happy to try and oblige ;-)


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Hannah Timms
Actor

Thank you


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You're welcome ;-)
(Sorry for the delay in replying, was away for a bit...)


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Hello there, thank you for the great info on voice over work and demos; are there specific voice over agencies that have great reputation? There are so many out there, hard to know which are actually worth contacting?( I am quite new to the UK industry...)Thanks for any comments!


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you're welcome Adrienne. That's true, there are many voiceover agencies about, some bigger, longer established or trendier than others - but when you start you can't really be picky - if any of them want to take you on, go for it! It's very hard to be accepted by an agent as very often their books are full... Hence my advice about getting on to a voiceover portal. To find a pretty comprehensive list of voiceover agents in the UK go there
http://www.voicefinder.biz/?page=industry_contacts&subpage=voiceover_agents_directory
Good luck and don't hesitate to ask anything you want more info on, I'll be glad to help if I can!


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Thank you very much Pierre! Very helpful. Your name sounds French: as I am French, would you have any advice as to international voice work?or any info? ( if you ARE French that is!!(:)


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Oui Adrienne, je suis Français (même après 12 ans à Londres...) I'll send you a PM about it ;-)


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How are you getting on with your demo? have you decided to do it in Edinburgh or to wait until you arrive in the big smoke? Just asking because if you did record in Edinburgh I'll like to know how it went as people ask me all the time about places to record their demos. Another place I'd recommend would be Peter Kiely, he doesn't have a website but he is a very good ingeneer - and don't hesitate to get in touch, salut!


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Salut Pierre, I am actually going to record the demo with Crying out loud, they seem to really allow for some time discussing etc. The studios up here that had been recommended to me were the Red Studios in Edinburgh. WOrth checking out for anyone in Scotland...


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Spoken with Crying Out Loud today, they're very nice and from what I heard are very professional... You should be alright! For the Scottish studio, do you know if they have a website?


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Spoken with Crying Out Loud today, they're very nice and from what I heard are very professional... You should be alright! For the Scottish studio, do you know if they have a website?


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Paul Thomas
Actor

Hi All,

I thought I'd add to the discussion a second Voice Over portal: http://www.voiceovers.co.uk
I haven't tried it myself (yet) but know a couple of people who have had a few things through them - one even got an Aardman Animations job!

Out of interest, has anyone tried out VoiceFinder.biz AND VoiceOvers.co.uk? It would be good to know opinions of both to help decide which to join.

Paul


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Pierre, I dont think the Red Studios have a website; their phone number for anyone interested up in Scotland is 0131-555-2288.
Oh and thanks Paul for the new voice over web address, I will definitely check it out!


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