'I'm a Celeb...get me out'

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    Hi Guys,

    Thought I would start a new discussion.

    Has anyone been watching 'I'm a Celeb'.

    What are your views on the Programme?

    Anyone out there fancy adding their pennie's worth about the programme. What do you all think of the people in their.

    Love Alex. xxxxx

    • 29th Nov 2006
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    I'd love it if someone could clarify for me who some of these people actually are!!!! And what qualifies them as 'celebraties'?! I have to admit though I do find myself shamefully taking a sneaky peak at what's going on every so often!!

    Ellie

    • 25th Nov 2006
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  • Lee Ravitz

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    Well, I tend to feel ambivalent about them, really. They are certainly a very unimaginative way of filling in our TV scheduling (and I think we, as performers, should feel rightly frustrated that they rule our airwaves to such an extent, because they stand in for better quality drama that might [?1] otherwise be getting made), but sometimes I think they can be quite compulsive. For some reason, I don't find I'm a Celeb quite so hatefully tedious as many of them (perhaps because it's not really on forever), and I quite like the notion that something of the desperateness of the whole enterprise is so palpably sent up on screen - these sad so - called celebs know exactly what they've let themselves in for, and deserve to have to put up with it! Sadly, I think the joke is on us the viewers ultimately as having much fun it might be to see some holier than thou minor celeb having rats tipped into his/her hair, you can bet they'll be earning a nice sum for it all at the end of the day.

    I've always felt some of the live broadcast 24 hour stuff (hugely tedious) is interesting for an actor though - if you watch it with the sound off for ten minutes, it's fascinating to see how people actually behave in conversation with one another, when they aren't worrying about what the cameras are doing - great mannerisms you can spot, and put into your next screen performance, for instance!

    The other thing is, of course, how packaged all this stuff actually is - it's all so well edited together that there's an artform involved in making a story out of all the mundane day to day business. And so, you can't trust any of it for a minute. The editors know exactly who they want you to love, hate, think is a wuss etc.

    My sister who was involved in the (I hope) slightly more highbrow Edwardian Country House for Channel 4 a few years back, 'played' a housemaid for them, which involved her having to work from about 6.00 in the morning to 10.00 at night every day while wearing a corset for 2 months. She used to have to contact us through handwriting letters in pencil! Anyway, because she was quiet, and a hard worker, she wasn't really deemed 'interesting' enough to be used much on screen - and so, she never ended up appearing in the finished product much. More interestingly, the producers wanted to tell the story they needed to tell - admittedly, they were trying to make an educational documentary for a certain audience, and some contributions would have been decidedly unsuitable - but I found it interesting that my sister had to go to hospital at one point (because her asthma was so badly affected by clearing out the grates every morning) and that she had some very worrying things to say to the diary room camera about life without proper sanitary towels!! I actually thought all this stuff would have given us viewers significant insight into some of the real horrors and nastiness of living a life as a domestic servant in the early 1900's, but they didn't like it, and so, although it happened and was significant, it never made the final cut.

    • 25th Nov 2006
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    A pennies worth: of all the crap reality tv shows this is surely the most patronising. celebrity has become an over valued currency in this era but I'm a Celeb surely brings it to yet another level of crassness

    • 25th Nov 2006
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  • Blake J Askew

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    But surely no one can resist the otherwise compulsive option of watching David gest and emulating his characteristics. He IS THE clebrty...afterall, he married Liza Minelli and later divorced her accusing her of beating him up......

    I am in the wrong profession. I neeed to ahcieve success by marrying through the ranks!!!!!!

    That is how shallow this stupid programme is.

    • 26th Nov 2006
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    Yes Blake, I agree with you. This is shallow TV at it's worst. Even so, if I'm honest, I do find myself drawn to it every now and then. The thing that really annoys me is that it takes jobs away from the likes of us. Here we are trying to make an honest living at doing what we are good at, only to find that hours of good viewing time is taken up with this c...

    Oh well, at least it's a good subject to talk about.

    Have a good day everyone.

    Love Alexandra. xxxx

    • 26th Nov 2006
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  • Kenny Richards-Preston

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    As much as I HATE reality TV shows, on principal alone, I'd rather watch Cirque de Celebritie on Sky One, at least it's celebs actually doing something even though it is circus performances!!

    Kenny

    • 26th Nov 2006
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  • Cheska Hill-Wood

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    Sell-ebrity!

    • 27th Nov 2006
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    There's only one reason why i refuse to watch this show, and it isn't as a result of some inverted snobbery like "it's car crash tv", as i'm sure that anyone who got offered that amount of money to have an experience like that would jump at the chance.

    No, my issue is one of televised cruelty to animals. To say that we're "a nation of animal lovers" is a joke when millions of us tune in to watch the live death of animals. Eels, snakes, scorpions, worms and rats thrown into the same vat, and then dropped onto the floor. You can't convince me that none of these innocent creatures weren't harmed.

    I get so angered by the country's apparent apathy to this. The media should take a stand and point this out, but as the show is so popular, this doesn't sell newspapers does it?

    Anyone else feel the same?

    Kisses x

    • 27th Nov 2006
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    Hi Chris,

    Yes, I couldn't agree more. It seems to me as if no-one gives these animals a thought. If it was cats or dogs that were being used on this programme then everybody would be 'up in arms' about it.

    Love Alex. xxx

    • 27th Nov 2006
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    i would, in defense of the show, say to anyone who says there aren't any celebrities there- BOLLOCKS!

    err...ok, apart from the afore mentioned david gest (who not only married liza, is also a famed producer in the states), jason donovan and matt willis (who between them must have shifted more record sales than you could shake a stick at), faith brown (who was a constant on tv in the 80's as well as appearing in tons of stage shows, including a huge run as norma desmond in sunset boulevard), jan leeming (we watched her on the news every day for christ's sake!), myleene klass, toby anstis, dean gaffney (all had it BIG, but lost it.)

    don't think they've done too bad in pulling some pretty big celebs. better than trust me i'm a beauty therapist, with stan boardman and that annoying antiques kid thats now a transexual.

    i rest my case.

    hugz x

    • 27th Nov 2006
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  • Claire Dodin

    Actor

    Is anyone else worried about this trend of TV shows "I'm a celebrity, please torture me" going on?

    What is going to happen to US when we are famous then forgotten?

    Is there going to be a "I'm a celebrity plastic surgeon extreme make-over", where celebrities will have to fight in the jungle to eat bugs and the one who fails (or wins?) the task will get a face lift performed by the other celebrities under the supervision of a qualified surgeon of course! (we wouldn't want to damage a celebrity, would we?)

    Thank god for the temping jobs....

    • 27th Nov 2006
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    FAB!!! Sign me up!

    :0)

    x

    • 27th Nov 2006
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  • Lucy Perkins

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    I think it's all absolute tosh and can't believe reality TV is still going. Does no-one else think how damaging it is to our industry? It's putting actors, writers and directors out of work left, right and centre.

    It's riduculous and I HATE it with a passion. Grrr.

    Lx

    • 27th Nov 2006
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  • Lee Ravitz

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    So, why is it still broadcast?

    Well, I guess they don't save a hell of a lot of money on this stuff (you've got to be paying evrybody shedloads, I imagine, for them even to conisder doing it), but, let's be honest, it gets ratings, and, frankly, it's not at all difficult to make (relatively speaking).

    When people stop watching this stuff, then they'll stop broadcasting it - it may happen - I was recently very pleased to see a newspaper article about 'Love Island' (they dropped the 'Celebrity' from that one!) saying that it had done so poorly ratings wise last time it was broadcast, that they were pulling the plug. But, frankly, Big Brother still somehow manages to get huge media interest every year, the X - Factor is surely one of the key prime time draws on a Saturday night (still) etc. etc. The format gets tiring very quickly, even if nothing else does. But so long as those millions of viewers keep being racked up, they'll keep broadcasting 'em - they'd be idiots not to.

    And were it all suddenly replaced by lots of well - wrought playlets filled with skilled actors (they *do* show ' 'em on occasion), you can bet they'd be getting a critical success and a ratings failure.

    That's the way it is today - we're not living in the 60's anymore, when TV was just an extension of theatre in your living room, or even in the 80's, when they thought of it as a subversive medium - more's the pity!

    [Yes, I know the above statement is open to dispute - 1980's TV may have given us Edge of Darkness, but it also gave us Duty Free etc. Enough already]

    • 27th Nov 2006
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    oh my god! my head hurts. you're all so bloody worthy! fact is reality tv does get the ratings, people watch it in droves. and why? because it's largely entertaining. admittedly, some of it is total dross but i'll tell you something, i'd rather watch a live anal bleaching after a night down the pub than some tired old actor knob whinging about how the industry has changed on some late night panel debate show or seeing judi dench getting wheeled out for yet another startling portrayal of an ancient monarch revealing yet more hitherto unknown dark secrets that were actually dreamt up by a bitter bbc writer in the grubbiest office of television centre.

    we live in a throw away, "fast food" society. like it or not, thats the way things are. so whats the point in constantly harping on about how marvellous the old days were like a gang of pensioners at a coffee morning. times have changed, jump on the bandwagon or go down in a sinking ship- the choice is yours.

    all my love

    x

    • 28th Nov 2006
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  • Lucy Perkins

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    And it's views like that that's keeping it all going! I'm really surprised to hear that from an actor..!Not all change is good. This definitely isn't. Dumbing down is not the way forward. It may be inevitable but that's a very sad thing and shouldn't go by without serious consideration. However, to each their own, we're all different and all have different tastes etc and so be it.

    Lx

    • 28th Nov 2006
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    an actor with a sense of humour and a grip on reality (qualities unfortunately lacking in so many areas of the industry). you should know by now that i don't take life too seriously, but the one thing i am deadly serious about is making a go of my career. as i said, times have changed whether you like it or not, and if you want to have an illustrius working life then it's a fact that one must be adaptable to these changes and embrace them. sitting at your desk in a call centre and writing complaining posts on a website is not going to make a difference to this. believe me, i know this is unfortunate, but thats just the way it is.

    an actor should be prepared to turn their hand to a wide variety of media to get ahead in the industry. it's like with modelling, the model is paid to stand there and look pretty in the clothes, whether they like the garments or not. you won't enjoy some acting jobs, but you have to do them to forward your career or at least pay the bills. that car or that house won't buy itself. and you could go on about integrity til you're blue in the face, but you'll be doing it from behind your computer screen in that call centre while the rest of the world is getting ahead.

    sad but true.

    x

    • 28th Nov 2006
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  • Lucy Perkins

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    That doesn't mean you have to like it. God it's like the revolution never happened! I appreciate what you're saying but my point is that reality TV IS damaging to our careers and I think that's a shame. TV is such a powerful medium and it's being massively abused. I'd rather choose a completely different career than feel I had to concede to what you're suggesting because that's not why I chose to be an actor in the first place.

    And I don't work in a call centre.

    Lx

    • 28th Nov 2006
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    REVOLUTION? WHAT REVOLUTION??? French? Industrial? typical pretentious actor thing to say. the media revolution is happening every day sweetie. it's fun-jump on board!

    i know you don't have to like it, and actors will sit and bitch about it 'til they're blue in the face, but my point is, what are you doing about it? NOTHING! because there's nothing you can do! because no-one wants to listen. while you're moaning, jordan is making another million. the woman is talentless but at least she knows that and works to her strong points. a business mind like no other, as she is hugely rich for doing flop all! she doesn't sit in freezing rehearsal rooms sipping tea to sty warm, or haul her ass around doing TIE to pay bills.

    it's sink or swim in the industry and those that go on about the good old days tend to sink dear.

    anyway, once again i have probably "overstepped the mark" and risk being ejected from this website for having an opinion (a true one at that), so this will be my last word on the subject.

    lighten up people, have fun.

    kisses x

    • 28th Nov 2006
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