Ian's Thread for Today: HELLRAISERS

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    Behold: Today's grenade of chat thrown into the battlefield of Thespis!

    Why are there no colourful hellraisers any more?

    Where's this generation's Reed, O'Toole and Burton?

    Are they in bed by nine with a Malted Horlicks?

    Maybe its our duty in the socials to rekindle the flames of our forefathers (and mothers!) The spirit of Edmund Keane! The teeth of Ken Dodd! The raw sexual magnetism of Jimmy Krankie!!

    *Rips clothes off* "I'm sober as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.." !!!!!!!!!

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  • Augustine Flint-Hartle

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    I want to know where the taller ones are ~ I'm only 5ft 8 but I seem to tower over quite a few.

    Off to the pub for a large glass of vino...

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  • Mark Joseph

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    Colin Farrell's a good hellraiser. He never lets the side down.

    Oh, and what's wrong with being 5'8"?

    Mark.

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  • Augustine Flint-Hartle

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    Just typed in hellraiser actors into google and it came up with Oliver Reed.

    *sigh*

    There's nothing wrong with being 5ft 8 (I am)... :)

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  • David Sayers

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    Could only think of Colin Farrell too and I don't really think of him as a real hellraiser. To be a true hellraiser you need to achieve a level of acclaim at an early age before plummeting to the depths of over-indulgence and despair (just so people can say "if only" when you die too young). However if you're lucky you get the chance to pull off one last 'great' performance before you die so that everyone can say "look, they still had IT").

    Maybe Colin Farrell will succumb to this status one day but I think he needs to reach his peak first....then fall.

    Looks like those days are long gone. Everyone's too concerned about their image these days and has several PR people around them making sure that the 'lows' are never (or rarely) seen, only the highs.

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    I'm 6ft (thats tall, not wide)

    I agree, Sayers, Sir! Somehow, though, O'Toole, Reed etc seemed to have the ability to be up all night legless and still manage to show up on set word perfect the next morning.

    Its no good though - we're being beaten by rock stars. Who's going to keep Equity's end up?

    My favourite hellraiser story (of sooo many) was when Burton and O'Toole were double cast alternating as Othello and Iago on Broadway. Great idea, except when they became so trollied before a show that they both came on as the same part!

    I also agree about Crawford being a stellar performer - though not a performer on Stella. (Phantom Of The Tap Room?) He totally retrained his voice for it - much respect...

    ********Any more much-loved hellraiser tales you've treasured?*******

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  • Rebecca Probyn

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    Well I have been known to turn into Jeffrey Bernard after a few!

    and I shall have you know 5'8" is the height to be dahhling!!

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  • Augustine Flint-Hartle

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    I have been racking my brains for a still living hell raiser...

    Kiefer Sutherland *swoon*

    Christian Slater *hits floor*

    I can't think of any British ones though and the above seem to have calmed down since the Heathers and Lost Boys days (showing my age tee hee).

    I must admit I do love being 5ft 8... especially when you put heels on and top 6ft.... but then you have to walk in them lol...

    Ax

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    Every lady of 5' 8" or above likes to feel protected by being with a guy taller than them.

    Hmm - think I've taken the sliproad off-topic. Might have a quick coffee at the Little Chef and then re-enter the motorway of chat a bit later...

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    Aren't we all forgetting that the ladies have seized the hellraising gauntlet, laid down by Olly ... Co? I mean come on, Daniella Westbrook, Patsy Kensit...

    p.s I sometimes use irony for comic effect!

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  • Mark Joseph

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    Yup, being short(ish) sucks. Being a 5'8" bloke, it means I'm kinda limited to women of 5'5" and shorter.

    Mark.

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    Well, I don't have a problem finding guys taller than me being a midget at 5ft :-)

    I would go for River Pheonix. He crashed and burned at the age of 23, so he would be of my generation if he were still alive today - if that counts!

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    I'm not entirely sure about how true this one is, but I'm sure I heard one about O'Toole or Harris getting plastered one day in London, deciding to go to the theatre and about 5 minutes into watching the play, realising he was meant to be in it.

    Proabably an theatrical myth but I like it.

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  • Emma Burn

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    Hi Sue

    totally agree with the River Pheonix one, also I never have a problem with guys being short either as I am only 5ft 1 myself. I did discover yesterday that I am too short to be a petite fitting model, how are we ever mean to get jeans that fit us if the petite ranges only start at 5ft 3!!!

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    there are no hell raisers left. just like their are no more rock stars left.

    like someone else said its all about image now. when colin farrells behaviour started to become more important than his acting he quickly calmed down.

    Sean Penn did the same and that guy would start riots!!!

    So no there doesnt seem to be any left which is a shame.

    Somebody needs to come along and shake it all up!!!

    Any takers?

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  • Rebecca Probyn

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    Steve I'm there with proverbial bells on! and I'm sure the gooseman and captain are contenders also!

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    thing is though - when you say hellraiser are you just talking about someone who parties hard?

    or someone who has no respect for authority?

    or someone who lives life by their own rules and is answerable to no-one thereby causing friction?

    how do we define a hellraiser?

    lets start from there and see who's got what it takes...

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    Okay, you think 5ft8 is hard how bout 5 ft 11. so far every actor (guy) i have worked with par one has been shorter than me!!!!

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    Philly hon, I know exactly how you feel - I'm a smidge over 6ft(yeah yeah I know it says 5'11 on my profile!) and I don't know how many times I've had to play opposite a 5'4" guy for the "comedy" of having his face in my chest - no offence shorty boys !

    AS for Colin Farrell - he's not really a hellraiser in the true sense, he's just a drunken ar**. THe difference? Charisma and charm - to be hammered but still charming, now that takes talent!! I'll try my best to show you on the 23rd, har har!

    K x

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    Hi Emma

    Too short for Petite! That's where the magic of wonder web comes into it - a great way to turn up jeans! It's when you go into a shop and ask if they do a petite range and they look you up and down and say "we go down to size 8" whilst thinking "You're not that skinny!"

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