Sharing advice for new actors

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we young actors sometimes need advice or a friend to bend an ear .. We have many young actors on ccp who feel they cant talk to the older actors as some older actors are still seeking agents themselfs so a few young actors and we need more hint hint to be willing to give honest advice and support each other with getting a gent how to get a castings how to promote yourself and most of all back you up im just one of the ppl who are willing to do this for young actors blucky mickey churchill


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Obviously the only 'downside' to this is knowing exactly who the most appropriate person to PM is.

In such a case though, when you don't particularly want to make your actual query public, you can always post a thread saying something along the lines of... 'can someone who knows about *** please PM me,' much like people already do when wanting info about Agents, employers, etc.

Of course, it may mean repeating yourself to numerous people!

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but if ppl on this site have been kind enough to accept pm to help others ...and say some one knows a brief going out as a breakdown before spotlight get bombarded by all agents why not slip that to someone on the bank of open doors we all are different in ages looks etc i know we got agents but they wont loose out by you being one step of the game they get there commission so its a win win situation we got to get work anyway we can i think its karma you are kind so why shouldnt you get a helping hand sometimes all of you mickey spreading the love


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I meant with people wanting help and advice who would rather not make the specific details public.

If you have info that you think is helpful to a specific person, by all means go ahead and PM them.

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yeah cos times they are a changing a lot of ppl now getting work without drama school some ppl even getting awards for reality shows so what ever we think we got to go with the flow so if any of us can help each other on this open door post lets do it today is a new day and i feel really positive about this im loyal you all know that ! So i promise everyone on this post i will do my best if i hear something i will pass on to the ppl who are on the post cos im true to my word mickey spreading the lov


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"oh Mickey your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind!"

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are you in?? You going accept pm from people who need advice?


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You know I never fail to give my advice, also, No matter what age you are, you are always learning, so I will always take advice from anyone no matter whom and appreciate iteven if I dont agree with it.


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yeah you are always cool but my question is would you let actor pm you for advice from you not on posts through pm?????


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Lee Ravitz
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What can I say? I not only consider my advice to always be available via PM, but I have advised on private mail more times than I can count. I am always happy to do it, and I think, in a way, it is attendant in that situation to at least offer a polite acknowledgment even if you don't feel you can offer advice. But, as we know, a lot of times in this business, we can send out a request and never be met with a reply. All of the actors and creators I most respect, however, have shown themselves willing to advise me when I have needed their help, and I think it is good to pass this kind of attention along.

The only provisos are, of course, that sometimes a reply can take a little time - not everyone is immediately available to deal with unsolicited topics straight off the bat - but I always try and mail a quick reply to this effect if I know I won't be able to pay attention to a question for a few days! And that it should be recognised that sometimes no-one has the answers - and the best that can be given is some heartfelt advice.

Personally, I have tended to find that most of the regular forum posters (which is a small minority of CCP users, it's true!) are decent about response to private mails - it is fair, I think, to work on the assumption that most who have the time and inclination to share their advice on the forums are not averse to responding to enquiries in person. Whether you are likely to get a reply from more occasional posters etc. is a far more open question - they may not even be logged in to CCP with regularity. But, certainly, I work on the basis that the forum is itself a small community, and that, whatever the occasional disagreements that may emerge in the threads, we are all, at heart, already communicating already long before we start firing off private mails to each other...which, in itself, serves as an ice breaker.

It is always a good thing for older actors to help younger actors (although, as I think Mickey suggested at the top of the thread - how you define 'older' is an open thing). Most actors who are CCP regulars, I think it's fair to say, are ALL looking for breaks, young or old, but clearly some have amassed more years of experience in the industry than others...or in certain sectors of the industry specifically. In the days of rep, I think it was entirely common for the next generation to be coached, whether directly or indirectly, by the attitudes, experiences and qualities of the older generation whom they came to work with. Unfortunately (in my opinion), the current state of the industry is such that it is much more fragmented than the world of rep ever used to be, and one disadvantage of this is that it has lessened the regularity with which younger actors come to know older actors and vice versa. One of the nice things about the CCP forums is definitely that they go some small way towards rectifying that.


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leer what a amazing answer your sooo kind you brought a good point to the table sometimes actors cant answer straight away so anyone reading this must remember that but they will get a private answer to a private message that is a gift so now we have to look out for leer by that i mean if you look at his file and you hear that he fits the brief give him info so he can apply for the film drama etc not jobs on here i mean guys some ofus got friends other got family members lets be kind and keep are ears open by now all ppl on this post must of had a look who they are talking to so as i said we are all different so lets fight for our kind open door post members kindness is king the more we help each other the more karma we project mickey


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hooray my aunt gave me the brief for a big advert and it wont be put out to agents unti thursday so i just pm the member by pm private but the oint is its so cool we can do this ok i got a question do you all believe in the power of thought ? My mentor used to say bring an imaginary glass wall down if your outside ur comfort zone at a casting so you can see the others but you cant hear them so you stay in ur zone given to me by the late dennis hopper genius


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I can highly recommend PM'ing Lee, if for no other reason than to receive some well written, thought provoking reading material.


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Mickey this is such a great idea, you are a real inspiration. In these hard times we should all be looking to help each other & it's nice to see so many people willing to do that. I'm fairly new to this profession myself but have a lot of life experience, & will always help where I can, even if it's just a friendly chat when things are getting people down. Ceej xxx


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Hi Guys,
Thanks for all your comments. Micey is a true saint. He left me a message saying he wont be here till tomorrow. He is help out a girl with a casting.
But he will get back to you.
Sleep well folks

Adios amigos


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first great news two more great ppl rob otherwise known as axemancometh willing to take pm of any actor who dont want answers in public but need answer so thats cool also the lovely ceej who i knew in my hart if she read this post she would be willing to take pm as well so now we have more to put into our mission to get all work as your being kind so all of us have to try to pull out all the stops to try to get us open door ppl work now one got a ccasting wednesday bbc positive thoughts guys come on its like a club once one gets work two will follow and so on its karma honest it works im so happy when we start posting pplsuccess we will prove that if wee really put our minds to this it will work micky going to sleep nite you wonderful ppl mickey karma rules


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I think it would be a good idea for people to list what their special skills are and introduce themselves a bit on a special CCP advice section page/s

An advice section which would could be split into "subsections" so that a member can go to a specific person for a specific skill.

Eg:
Mark Kempner: pro actor for past 23 years
Skills: IT on PC/websites and promotion/Showreels and video editing/TV commercials castings/TV and Films/Corporate film work and roleplay/Part time work and earning potential fo9r actors in between jobs doing Murder Mystery and Events work/Business aspects of being self employed when starting out as an actor
NOTES: By all means PM me or email me direct at; mark@trueviewevents.co.uk

Joe Bloggs: Pro actor 25 years
Skills: Theatre work/Radio and voice over work/Car mechanic/Guitar player and teacher/website building.
I am based in Wood Green, by all means PM me or email me direct.

Etc etc

This would then form another resources section and folk could view the actors biog etc and decide if they will make contact in view of what they see or whatever.

It could also show if that person was on line or not.

No doubt this could be developed and thought out better by CCP towers….or by all of us first into a workable set if ideas for Chris and the webmasters to assemble the techi side of things back at ccp towers.

Subheadings could inc
Personal Websites
Showreels
Voice reels
CV writing
Casting process TV & FILM
Casting Process Theatre
Casting process Musical
Pictures and Photos
Pantomime
T.I.E work
Temping work
Promo Work
Best digs in the area
Makeup for Film and Theatre
Student films
Stage fighting
Horse riding teacher
It skills on PC
IT skills on Mac/apple
Financial and accounts
Stage fright
Equity and Union matters
Singer and teaching
Auditions
Role play specialist
Twitter and facebook
Tax advice
Law and legal matters
Temp work and what to do in between jobs
General listening and support for when you are feeling low

Each adviser can fill in a simple CCP form and tick all the subheadings they know they are experienced in and willing to offer advice over.

Because each actor has listed the skills they are happy to be approached on….nobody need feel silly about asking them advice or questions on that subject.

One should think about indemnity here though…..always the official stuff huh? Ie: If I advise someone on their PC, and it finishes off the computer in one way or the other…..then I need to know I can't be sued!

Monthly meetups; Into a pub one midweek afternoon or evening: Run by 3-4 experienced actors who are willing to be bought a pint and pumped for advice. These sessions could also be split into specific advice nights? This would create some face to face meetings and a good chance to make new friends as well as networking between each other. The evenings could be split up into areas in the UK too.

Anyway …just a thought or two on how one could make this idea develop?

Another thought is that not all the advice is always going to be good....so one shoudl bear that in mind too. Coz one actor says this, it doesn't always mean to say its correct.....as is the case with one or two threads and posts seen on here!

ideas...more thoughts?


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ok mark i am loving this energy we must find a way to make it easier ?? Hmmm i think first we on this post all can do the support and we all know rule of thumb 9 auditions you get one of them so 8 knock backs but we all have learnt its not knock backs as each casting has a story board so the nearest to that story board gets that job but the great thing is every casting should be celbrated as you have a chance to make an impression on the casting director so even if not right for one job she or he will call you in for another my own advice is go to casting celebrate that the fact your in with a chance and if phone rings it rings if not you know you made an impression now heres the thing you should be getting castings every month by rule of thumb and dont you all agree casting directors pet hate that question we never ever must ask? When will i hear???? They hate that question it smells of desperation now guys this info has been given to me by ppl in biz who are close to me and there jobs are in casting ok anyone got a casting today??? Think lucky and you will be remember if you treat it as making a impession for future jobs it will take off the nerves and your reading this so you know i want you to smash it give it your best shot well done for getting casting your already a winner blucky mickey


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I like what I'm reading here. Perhaps there would even be a possibility of setting up an online co-operative agency somehow?
Even some of us ancients don't currently have an agent, and my experience with a co-op proved they can work brilliantly.
On the other hand if there are any agents looking at this ...


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This sounds great, not entirely sure what I could contribute ;)

I've recently started up my comedy company so I suppose I could (depending on how I do!) assist people who are looking to put on productions in fringe theatres or the like. Any advice from where I rehearse/venues/costs etc.

Also if people are eager to be involved in my company I'm always going to be looking for help with everything (actors, tech etc) and I plan to hold my next play auditions in July. Plus I'm aiming to film online sketches each month, so they're would be castings for that. I set-up the company with the idea of giving everyone who wants to get involved a platform.

Will have a website up soon with a blog acting as a kind of aid/assist with fellow actors, so perhaps I could include the details listed by other members here?


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It's a lovely to share advice and information with other people. But as Lee points out you do need to make sure that you take advice from the right people, not just people who always have an opinion on everything, or you end up with terrible information which will be detrimantal to your career. So any "expert" panel would have to be vetted pretty effectively, or you'd end with well-meaning (or egocentric!) actors offering dud advice. Disaster! Checking CV's to see if they are professional working actors with good credits, good showreel, good headshot etc.. etc..

I often get PM'd and I take it as a real compliment. I have recommended my agent ot other actors (at least one has since been taken on) and I get asked to look at showreel content, pics, give advise about finding agents, what work to take etc... It's a pleasure to offer help :) Although I'm probably much less experienced than many on here, my seasoned years seem to add gravitas to my opinions! For better or worse! :)


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